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Good morning.

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Good morning, everyone.

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Good morning.

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Okay. This feels like a reunion, but I will
ask you to all take your seats as we're

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going to begin.

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Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
Dear Sheba, Excellencies, dear colleagues,

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it's a real pleasure to
be with you this morning.

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Welcome to the launch of Invest Frontier,
I love the word frontier, on a map it is

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just a line, but for explorers it was always
a place where the known world ended and

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new possibilities began. I hope we bring
that same spirit here today, explorers with

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the courage to try something new. And I'm
sure we are all explorers in this room,

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and I want to thank especially those of
you who've crossed oceans and continents to

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be here on a special thanks to Tom
Fletcher, dear Tom, for joining us today.

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Invest Frontier is a new platform. We have
created with the World Economic Forum to

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bring businesses and investors together
with humanitarian organizations.

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Today we have 70 representatives around
the table from UN agencies, and NGOs, to

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financial institutions, private companies,
philanthropies, and governments of

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course. We don't always speak the same
language, we use different acronyms, we come

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from different words, but we all
believe we can make a difference.

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So let me reassure you, we are not here to
talk about moral duty or lofty ideals, we

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are here to talk business. To explore
opportunities attract investment, open new

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markets, and find new ways of working. More
than half of you around this table come

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from the private sector, and I certainly
don't intend to waste your valuable time.

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Today 2 billion people live in
areas hit by conflicts and crisis.

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That's 1 in 4 people on this planet. This
is an enormous humanitarian challenge.

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But it is also one of the greatest untapped
economic opportunities of all time.

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Picture a displaced refugee. Struggling to
grow enough food to feed her family, and

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now imagine that same refugee having
access to innovative irrigation system

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developed on the other side of the world.
The reality on the ground could look

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radically different for her. The European
Commission and our member states are the

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world's largest humanitarian
donors, but humanitarian aid

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alone cannot solve a humanitarian crisis.
We need humanitarian organizations,

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development finance institutions, and
the private sector working hand in hand.

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Public-private partnerships in
developing countries are nothing new.

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The challenge is to make them work in
places hit by crisis where businesses and

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investment are hardest to
attract and most needed.

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That means finding new ways to bring
investment into fragile markets, reducing risk

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for businesses, and challenging the
assumptions that these places are simply too

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risky to invest in. When local businesses
grow, they create jobs, and a steady wage

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means a family relies less
on the next aid convoy.

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These partnerships must work for everyone.

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This is not charity, it is about real
business opportunities that also meet real

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human needs. When people have jobs and
essential services, and businesses find room

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to grow, everyone wins. We already
have examples that prove this work.

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Now we need to scale them up. And that's
why we created Invest Frontier, to bring

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people around the same table
who don't often sit together;

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it is rare, I have to say, to see all of
you in one room and that's exactly the

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point. I don't want Invest Frontier to be
just another conference where we exchange

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business cards and go
home. We want results.

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So today together we Sheba, we will present
promising initiatives that already exist

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and could go much further with
the right support and investment.

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Dear friends, we choose the name Invest
Frontier to go beyond what has been done

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before. The explorers never knew what
exactly lay beyond the line on the map.

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They went. Anyway. Together let's
take this opportunity and let's go.

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Thank you and dear Sheba,
the floor is yours.

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Thank you. It's a hard act to follow, but
thank you very much to you and thank you

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to the European Commission for really being
a true partner in this effort and to our

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Invest Frontier leadership group. It's
nice to see many of you around the table.

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And you have really helped to shape the
ambition and the practical agenda that we

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are launching today. So Excellencies,
colleagues and friends, and I have to say it's

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been a particular joy to see so
many friends already this morning.

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The past two years and I think in fact
really we know a lot longer than that have

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been a time of profound disruption. We
have seen its effects across sectors,

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portfolios, budgets, and partnerships, and
that reality as Hadja was just saying has

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really created a clear imperative and
that's why we're here today, to move beyond

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debating what needs to change
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When we talk about fragile and frontier
markets we often lead with what is missing,

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capital infrastructure, capacity,
stability, the gaps and investment risks are

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certainly real, but despite these realities
we also know that there are thriving

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partnerships and business models there
are countries and communities marked by

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entrepreneurship, by innovation and
adaptability, and places where solutions are

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resulting in real economic
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they are already underway. And that's why
I think we've brought together the two

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pillars that we have in Invest Frontier,
to because this distinction between crisis

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response and economic development
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People need safety, people need essential
services, they also need jobs, they also

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need functioning markets, they also need
reliable infrastructure, they also need

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opportunity to build a future. Bringing
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together is one of the world economic
forums distinctive contributions.

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We do help to convene actors that are
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We connect those responding to crisis today
with those who are investing in markets

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and building the institutions that create

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jobs and drive economic growth. And with
Invest Frontier we are helping to turn what

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is a broad ambition into practical
collaboration centered on solutions that can be

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adapted, scaled, and replicated. And we
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will give a clearer path for what we all
have been talking about a long time, for a

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long time in different ways, how to engage
the private sector, really as partners

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around the table and not as an afterthought
in conversations or as a place to go in

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hopes of more financing. So today as Hadja
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portfolio of 10 partner-led solutions;
these are solutions that address practical

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challenges, strengthening crisis response,
using technology more effectively,

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mobilizing investment, supporting local
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markets. And I want to stress that
these solutions are a starting point.

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What we are doing today
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This is not a closed list. We already have
six additional solutions that have been

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identified for further development. And
we remain open to further proposals.

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But importantly our ambition
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What we really are aiming to do is to
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markets to ensure greater resilience and
durability and to do that with a broader

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and sustained broader set of partners. And
that means among other things moving from

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external intermediaries to locally led
delivery and capital, moving from fragmented

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one-off interventions to a more collaborative
ecosystem, moving from grants alone to

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catalytic and smart finance, moving from
seeing fragile and frontier markets as aid

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recipients to recognizing them as growth
markets, and from treating technology only

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as an enabler to understanding the
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sustainable transformation.
What can we do?

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We will broker the partnerships that help
these solutions scale and move forward,

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connect solution owners to the capital,
the expertise, the technology, the markets,

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and the policy partners
they need, and champion

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successes that demonstrate practical
pathways to scale across our networks.

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So our ask today of all of you is
to help us create those pathways.

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Strengthen one of the solutions already
selected, propose a new solution, bring

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capital or expertise or open
access to technology or markets.

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For those who will be at our annual
meeting in 2027, we are looking forward to

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progressing this effort there through
a series of planned conversations and

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convenings. And by Davos 2028,
we together will deliver results.

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Modernized crisis response, strengthened
local business and infrastructure,

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increased capital and capability, reaching
underserved markets, and partnerships

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that create jobs, resilience, and
that underpin economic growth.

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We'll present a series of models that
showcase not only how this work could be done

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differently, but that it is
already being done differently.

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And at scale in difficult environments.
Invest Frontier gives us this opportunity

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and we look forward to advancing
it together with all of you.

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Thank you.

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Well, let me add my
welcome and good morning.

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I'm Raj Kumar. I'm the president,
editor, and chief of DevEx.

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I just got here from Washington, D. C. and
I don't know what it is about this week,

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but I've never had a
warmer welcome in Brussels.

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And it is wonderful to be with all of
you, to be with Commissioner Laveef, to be

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with Shiba for what I think is
some news. This is actual news.

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You are, as a group, doing something
together with some accountability, with the

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timeline that is very in tune with kind of
the meta themes that we've been covering

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at DevEx and all of us have
experienced the last couple of years.

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The theme around the political economy,
around the aid industry, the idea that cuts

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are here, they're probably here to stay
in some way regardless of election shifts.

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And that this community
needs to work in a new way.

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And needs to draw a bigger circle around
what we mean by humanitarian response and

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development, a circle that includes the
private sector, that includes philanthropy,

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that includes new and innovative models
as well as the core crisis response

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humanitarian and development work that
is so essential in so many places.

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And just to underline what places
we're talking about, this is 1.

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8 billion people. This
is not a niche issue.

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And these economies as we have begun
making this shift toward a more private,

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finance-focused sector have
largely been left behind.

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Many of you are working on this every day.

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It's not to say there isn't great effort,
but in these economies 20% of the world's

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population lives but only 5% of
the world's productivity exists.

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And we're talking about a place where 70
countries or so by 2050 it will be more

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than a third of the world's working age
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So their destiny is very much intertwined
with the destiny of all of us regardless

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of what country you
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And the question is, can
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And I think that's what the European
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bringing us together

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here today to discuss and what I hope
is going to be a really dynamic session.

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We're starting with an on the record
formal series of remarks, but we will move

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toward a really open conversation where
I hope all of you will have a chance to

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participate and debate and
discuss how we move this forward.

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I just want to say we did a survey earlier
this year at DevEx and we asked our

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audience globally what do
you think is holding us back?

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Why is it that billions to trillions
has become sort of a punchline in a way?

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Some people talk about the magic
pony of private finance, right?

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This idea that theoretically we'll get
there, but why do we keep talking about it

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but not achieving it? And then the top
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this idea of misalignment. Everybody
wants this, but ultimately we don't gather

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around one table and find those
incentives that work for everyone.

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And I think that's what Invest
Frontier is trying to solve.

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And that's what we're
here today to discuss.

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So with that, I want to welcome all of
you once again and open this up to our

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initial speakers. For this on the record
session, we have a couple of speakers who

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are going to join us virtually, and then
we're going to hear from a few others in

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the room, and then we'll
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So with that, I'd like to ask Kirsty McNeil
who moved from one side of the table to

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another side of the table now. She has
a long career in the humanitarian and

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development space, but of course now is
the Minister of State for International

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Development in the UK at a particularly
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And so we're very eager to hear your
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Please, Minister McNeil.

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Thank you, Raj. Can everybody
hear me? Can people hear me?

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Yes? Okay. Thank you, Raj. And thank you,
Hadja and Shiba, for bringing us together.

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I feel so optimistic and excited to be
joining you at the launch of Invest Frontier,

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but I don't need to tell anyone gathered
in this room that we are meeting at a very

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difficult moment. So we are seeing
climate change damage hitting developing

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countries. We are braced, of course, for
the worst El Niño on record, conflict and

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instability is harming too many people in
too many places, and as we know so well,

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humanitarian needs are growing.
And funding is shrinking.

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And so that context makes it
incumbent on us to make hard choices.

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About where to focus our efforts. But it
also means that we have to find new ways to

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bring more resources to the table. Now,
let me just underscore and be clear.

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Our view is that traditional grant
financing is going to remain the mainstay of

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humanitarian funding. But there are places
where public finance can help unlock

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private capital that can help spread
risk and it can help support locally led

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solutions. And that's why we're all here.
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people living through a crisis,
they do need more than aid.

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Now, they do need aid, but
they need more than aid.

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They need services, they need jobs, they
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lives. And that's where private
investment can have such a huge impact.

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Now, some of you may have seen the launch
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strategy, which targets 25% of new
core investments at the least developed

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countries. So if you look at somewhere
like DRC, what BII is backing is the

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country's first deep
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We're hoping that that will generate about
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dollars in additional trade. But we're
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important, though they are for something
like BII, we actually are trying to ensure

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that BII and other instruments
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and institutions that can sustain
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So again, if you look at something like FSD
Africa, which was established by the UK,

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we're working with the Ethiopian government
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securities exchange. It has
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More than 47,000 Ethiopians have become
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company. And we need to change the
international systems too, and you'll have heard

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the Foreign Secretary talk about that a
lot in Bangkok about what our agenda is for

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the G20 presidency. But let me just focus
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zeroing in in particular on how the
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effectively, taking on risks at the private
sector can't and won't, and transferring

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risks that investors can bear and we'd
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for new investments, including
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And as we all know so well, if we want
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have to protect both people and economies
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progress overnight. And that's why we
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finance. So earlier this year, the UK
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Disaster Fund, which is already mobilized
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develop insurance that gives vulnerable
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hit. And of course, we've supported new
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before a crisis escalates. Now, for our
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that means everything because it's the
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they've worked so hard for
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So I'm so pleased to be with you. I am so
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been gathered today. And I just want
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opportunity. Let's take the time of being
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development and humanitarian actors
to really think about where can these

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approaches make the
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Where can they help us reach
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That's how we're going to be able to get
more security for people today and a much

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better chance for them
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Thank you so much, Minister, and
thank you for pleasing applaud.

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I hope you can hear that. There's
warm applause for you in the room.

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Kirsty and we are thrilled to hear you frame
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the urgency that I think we're
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I want to welcome to our
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Abdallah bin Abdulaziz Al-Rabiha, who is
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the Supervisor General of the King Salman
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And you should know he is also a noted
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Health of this country. So we're thrilled
and delighted to have you join us for some

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brief remarks. Thank you.

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Thank. You, good morning,
Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen.

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Let me start by expressing my sincere
appreciation to the mission and also to the

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World Economic Forum for convening
this very important gathering:

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Invest Frontier. Today has provided over
145 billion US dollars in humanitarian

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assistance to more than 175 countries.
KS Relief has implemented more than 4,000

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projects exceeding a budget of 8.5
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We can no longer continue to view fragile
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lens of endless vulnerability
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They must instead be approached as a potential
of opportunity locally led growth and

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also sustainable resilience. I would like
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should direct our work. Firstly, international
humanitarian law must be respected

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aid workers must be protected and secure
safe and unimpeded humanitarian access must

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be allowed. Without reliable unhindered
access, no viable market activity or

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economic recovery can take root. Secondly,
principled localization of aid activities

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must be introduced without increasing
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communities. Thirdly, there is a need to
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donor grants alone cannot close the widening
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today. Our role is to deploy public funding
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risk sharing mechanisms accountability and
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in high-risk frontier markets. While
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Finally, let us work together from Brussels
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into resilience unlock shared prosperity
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centers of dignity and
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Thank you so much. I want to turn now to
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table. Tom, you come from
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You're on the road more
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Actually visiting and seeing the challenges
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somehow find a way in this difficult fiscal
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achieve and meet today's needs. While also
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So I'm very eager to hear your
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Well. Thank you so much, Raj. And thank
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excellent group together. And for the spirit
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Kirsty said opportunity that sense of
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As you say, Raj, I'm often out there on
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Kathy and Chowder and others from the
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And we'll be heading from here in the next
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I hope before the end of the month into
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reach right now and on from there, to
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In Lebanon as well. And what you find in
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in the places recovering from climate
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Guaira after the earthquakes there and our
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in Nepal, for example. Is that when crisis
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people come together. And they don't
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you're a development person, you're
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They just come together as people.
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But for so long now, despite our best
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When we get to the global
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And we go to lots of meetings and
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And we fundraise separately.
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About the thing, the very niche thing
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So we've got to shift the mindset really
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local level. We've got
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And that's why Shiba and Shiba's focus
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important. It's why across the ISC we're
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We're working towards one supply
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We're working on transitions through work
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And why, you know, many of the organizations
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and Youssef get stuck into a problem or
Ugo and IOM, they're not thinking there's a

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humanitarian and
development aspect of this.

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They're thinking what
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What do we do for people on the
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A complementarity mindset.
Who's best place to deliver?

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Final couple of thoughts. I think that the
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now. And we've just got
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We now have the instruments, the tools to
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crises. And we've got to be out there using
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for results. It's why I've released a
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that communities can prepare
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We know which roads will be
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And so we can get the seeds at the other
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And when we come to the private sector,
the mindset shift for us has got to be that

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we move from saying we have a plan, please
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set of challenges here, please
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How do we solve problems together? How
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So we need you. We need this conversation,
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need this conversation. So thank
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Thank you so much, Tom. Thank you for
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which we very much needed
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I want to welcome Jacqueline
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Jacqueline is the founder
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You've been at this for a long time. You
in some ways invented this space, you and

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your colleagues at Acumen. So it's not
new, but I'm very eager to hear what you

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think this moment demands of us, what we
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investing in some of these most
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Thanks, Raj, and thanks for your voice. And
to the World Economic Forum and European

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Commission, this is
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And it's so represents the kinds of
conversations we need to have picking up from

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Tom. What I want to say is that just like
no single organization or grant maker is

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going to fix the problems that we
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And that the only way we solve these
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through new blends of capital new kinds
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really working on trust and honesty. I've
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example, which is hard with
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So I won't bore you with off-grid electrification, except that 700 million people on

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the planet still have no electricity,
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And massive climate change. What we did
as an example is what's called the hardest

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to reach with some of the amazing
partners sitting around this table.

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It's essentially a 250 million dollar
initiative 23 different partners came together

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from philanthropists that allowed us to
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equity investments in countries like Somalia
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kind of capital doesn't go in. The
private sector without I would dare say

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philanthropy wasn't coming in. Connected
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concessionary a lending facility with
first loss capital and really, really

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importantly grant money for technical
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That's the overall structure. It included
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World Bank Group and the IF including the
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understood the kind of capital they were
bringing at the top Shinhan, Korea's

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largest commercial bank. Each
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So that partnership allowed us to take the
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Each country has bespoke needs. And we
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And that brings us to trust. I don't know
how many times I write or call Ana Bejard

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at the World Bank to talk about specific
needs in a country particularly with

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results-based financing without that this
wouldn't be working in the way that it's

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working. Or. Calling the Norwegians to
think about the we structure technical

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assistance with expectations in one way
but the reality is of a situation given

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currency devaluations and the inability to
convert back into dollars that we needed

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to use it in a different way. The only
reason you get to yes is because you've had a

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long working relationship and they
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So I would say that we all all of
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And then finally and I've learned so much
about partnership and trust and hope we

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can talk about it. We just need a new level
of daring a new way to think about risk

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and while I sort of agree that this isn't
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need to think about the risk of not daring
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not just financial risk.
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It is social risk. And it is moral risk
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population is being excluded at a time
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inequality that we have. So I am so excited
to be here and so grateful for all the

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learning and the ability we've been able
to do things because of the people sitting

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Thank you so much, Jacqueline. Thank you
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role of trust and honest dialogue which
is certainly the spirit that I hope we can

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foster in this room today.
So thank you for that.

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I want to ask Franny Letoier to join us.
Franny, you invest every day in exactly the

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markets we're talking about and you
have helped to design and drive the

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International Financial Architecture in
a direction that does not neglect these

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economies. I'd love to hear how
you see this opportunity right now.

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Thank you very much, Raj. And I really
enjoyed hearing the opening remarks Hadja and

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Shiba and of course
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Abdallah. And my colleagues
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I come at this from a very personal point
of view because my career journey started

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in the multilateral development banks
then migrated to run a foundation and then

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went back to the multilateral development
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the African Development Bank then went
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development bank TDB and then went to work
in raising my own fund own capital and

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working with colleagues
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And one of the things that struck me
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foundation is that all of these forms of
capital humanitarian development finance

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philanthropy and private capital are filling
a very particular gap in the market but

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like the blind people touching the elephant
we only see one part of the elephant and

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so now we need to you know get rid of the
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that gives us the opportunity to
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And those are the stories I'll share here
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When we started out we really didn't get
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success that argument had had on a global
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a smaller scale there was a lot of it doesn't
really match what we do we really look

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at it this way and there are very difficult
to raise capital to address these types

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of issues. So we ended up putting our own
capital and starting and then showing that

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it is actually possible. So in the health
sector when we started we partnered with a

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foundation the Gates Foundation and they
gave us half we put in equal 50-50 of

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lending capital to see whether you can
give small and medium enterprises and those

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in the last mile distribution chain for
essential medicines and medical equipment

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the kind of funding they need to actually
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they are in.

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And what is very surprising we have a beta
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NPLs which was a big surprise even to the
investing team and an ability to scale and

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run with that solution
quite quite quickly.

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So now we are at the stage to say
okay now come and join us for scale.

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And the challenge with this is we started
actually in urban markets but very quickly

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we were told you know there is this refugee
community here that would really benefit

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from it. And then we had to think if you
had to serve a refugee committee does the

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model change. And we
realized actually it doesn't.

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What changes is your risk appetite and
therefore through structuring you can find

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the solution for that. The second example
I have again starting with our own

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investing our own capital is in
the agroforestry restoration space.

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And again very quickly here you find that
the carbon markets that everybody's trying

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to impact rely on these small farmers small
holders who could actually deliver huge

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value generate income and at the same time
contribute to the carbon credits that all

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the large companies are looking for. But
there's not a match in terms of how to fund

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that. So again we went to this drawing
board structured designed it in a way that

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gave it this opportunity space. And now
you are finding large companies coming say

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I'll take the full 50,000 hectares. And
so the farmers are getting a second third

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form of revenue and the beauty of it is
with these super El Niño now the cocoa

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coffee tea farmers are seeing declining
yields which will have a huge impact on

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local economies and therefore an opportunity
for using carbon as a supplementary

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income for these types of farmers. I'll
close with the last example because this one

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is very close to my heart. We were working
with a small community providing working

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capital using digital platforms is why I'm
a fan of AI used properly because we're

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able to use AI to go very fast and offer
solutions to refugee camps to individuals

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in very small one and
two person companies.

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During COVID and beyond. And that kind of
financing became then the backbone to say

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you actually can reach these
types of opportunities.

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It is not a philanthropic activity. It could
be a business opportunity because we've

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shown that you could do it but you
have to do the structuring right.

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Currency risk was huge.
Credit risk was limited.

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So if you find those then
you can find ways to do it.

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So I close by saying there is an opportunity
now in a very excited with the G20

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presidency of the UK coming up
in a few months to pick this up.

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MDB reforms so that these solutions are
not one-time emergency crisis but can be a

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repeated vehicle going forward. Platform
solutions bringing in the different stacks

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of capital from humanitarian to market
capital capital market at the root because

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you need someone there
when the aid goes away.

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Project preparation and
pipeline development.

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I can't say more strongly
what Jacqueline has just said.

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You need somebody to invest in that space.

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Asset recycling because there you have
opportunity to reuse assets that have already

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been funded release capital to do more
things and then partnerships and the trust

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issue I cannot agree more that can take
you for the long term to deliver unique

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solutions. So for invest frontier start
with a few country priorities a few local

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enterprises agree who prepares who buys who
bears risk and a deadline for deployment

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and next year when we meet
you'll see we have gone very far.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Franny. I just. Want to underline
the real world experience that you have

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had actually investing
in small enterprises.

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You said even some are one
or two person businesses.

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Having zero non-performing loans even
in the most challenging environments.

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That's incredible results and hopefully
gives confidence to everyone here that these

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markets should not be off limits to private
investors and those who are seeking real

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returns. There are
opportunities everywhere.

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I want to ask Barry Andrews
to join the discussion now.

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Barry as a member of the European
Parliament and chairs of course the European

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Parliament's committee on development.
You're thick in the middle of the

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negotiations on the financing envelope for
the future of the European Commission's

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funding around humanitarian
and development assistance.

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So we're eager to hear your thoughts.

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Thank you Raj and good morning everybody.
Commissioner thank you very much.

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In Shiva for this incredible initiative
I'm very excited to be president at the

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beginning of something and I want to
share that sentiment with so many of the

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earlier speakers that it feels like we
are at the beginning of something quite

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exciting. But as Raj said my role is here
on behalf of the European Parliament.

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We are the responsible for the European
budget together with the Council and as such

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our we're probably the most direct interface
with European taxpayers and our job is

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to make sure that we are accountable
that European taxpayer taxpayers have

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confidence in initiatives such as this. So
I want to raise some issues not because I

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want to create obstacles I want to just
make sure that we understand the kinds of

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issues that might create anxieties among
some of the members of the European

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Parliament at this early stage to allow
the debates to shape the debates and

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00:39:02,215 --> 00:39:06,609
anticipate the kind of issues and the
obstacles that we need to overcome at the

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earliest stage. So together with His
Excellency in Saudi Arabia I would share the

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concern that we make sure that we have a
laser focus on least developed countries I

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know that it is the focus of this
conference on fragile and conflict affected

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countries but 20 years ago we launched aid
for trade which is a central component of

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the global gateway and we had a hearing
in the Parliament this week which

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demonstrated that aid for trade has left
least developed countries behind very very

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significantly. So it is it is good to have
this intention right now but we may need

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to maintain a laser focus on it. The
second point is to get the balance right

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between transparency the right of the
Parliament for example to oversee issues and

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then the need for private sector commercial
sensitivity of course when you're

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dealing with the private sector there are
going to be issues around that and as a

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Parliament that is something we really
struggle with it's something we've struggled

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with with global

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00:40:03,544 --> 00:40:08,967
gateway it's very difficult to get information
about how much public sector money is

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actually leveraging private sector investment
it's very difficult to get it figures

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around the impact on human development
it's very difficult to look at the actual

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inputs of guarantees and blended finance.
So just getting the balance right between

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transparency and of course
commercial sensitivity.

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The third point I want to make and this
is true of all private partner public

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private partnerships and that is to
try to get the risk balance right.

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We can't have a situation where we
have a privatization of profit and a

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socialization of risk and you've already
talked about this Franny about where risk

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sits again this is a matter for EU taxpayers
yes we want to bring the private sector

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in that doesn't that goes without saying
but we have to get that balance right as

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well. The fourth point is how we interface
with the new trend made in Europe

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obviously there are representatives here
from all over the world and of course we

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want to involve multilateral development
banks but made in Europe is a trend away

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from the involvement of UN agencies and we
have to be very careful that we make sure

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that we navigate this and there might even
be a question of whether or not we need

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to update the humanitarian regulation given
that it goes back to 1996 and this is a

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very new approach which
requires a lot of flexibility.

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The fifth point is even in developed
countries the application of scarce resources

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00:41:31,444 --> 00:41:36,083
can be very contested you know that that
goes without saying where you make an

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00:41:36,121 --> 00:41:40,904
investment where you pay out on an insurance
for example that is controlled by a

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00:41:40,944 --> 00:41:44,850
sovereign or an agent on behalf of the
sovereign and this is of course even more the

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00:41:44,906 --> 00:41:49,913
case in fragile and conflict affected
countries where the application of scarce

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resources can be very contested happens
in developed countries but also in

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developing countries and something
we have to be very sensitive towards.

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Finally just a few quick points and
that is I think we should avoid too many

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flagships.

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I think that's been a
weakness of global gateway.

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00:42:04,084 --> 00:42:09,628
I acknowledged by DG INTPA my limited
knowledge of naval warfare tells me that you

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should only have one flagship to
avoid confusion but there you go.

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00:42:13,444 --> 00:42:20,086
I think we also have to avoid overpromising
impact investing isn't new agenda 2030

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00:42:20,133 --> 00:42:24,471
is about billions to trillions as you
said Raj and you can go back to 2008 when

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00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:29,323
Michael Porter is talking about
the shared value initiative.

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00:42:29,404 --> 00:42:33,961
And finally I think it's important that
we have representatives of developing

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countries really central
to this conversation.

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00:42:36,484 --> 00:42:38,127
It's great that the
private sector are here.

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So finally just to say the Parliament is
stands ready to really collaborate on this.

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00:42:42,904 --> 00:42:47,025
It's great that it's strategic. It's based
on the humanitarian communication in May

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00:42:47,092 --> 00:42:52,337
with a with a with a medium term aim towards
leveraging 10 billion dollars by 2028.

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So we will be there but we will
carry out our function of oversight.

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00:42:56,631 --> 00:42:57,831
Thank you.
