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Good morning, everyone. Good
morning, dear colleagues.

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Welcome to this brief meeting of our
Foreign Affairs Committee, where we have

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roughly 45 up to 60 minutes' time, so we
can all participate in the votes at 1 2.

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If you have no comments, then we
can then enter into the agend a.

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Item number 1 is the
adoption of the agenda.

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There are no objections from your side, as
I can see, so we can propose to adopt the

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agenda as it stands. The main point of
today's agenda is the presentation of the

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Joint Communication on the Europe -Snova
neighborhood, a new strategy for the

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Arctic. It is my pleasure to
welcome two our committee:

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Madame Claude Viron-Reville, the Special
Envoy for Ar ctic Affairs and Head of

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Division for Western Europe, at the
European External Action Service.

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I would also like to welcome Mr. Mark Gray,
Head of Unit for Political Strategy and

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Communication, at the
Commission's D G INTPA.

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The Arctic—and we've discussed this a number
of times in our committee—is no longer

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a remote per ipheral region. Climate change,
growing geopolitical competition, and

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the Russian military presence in the High
North have made it a strategic priority

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for the European Union. Up to now, the
European Union's approach, dated from the

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Communication of October 2021, and it is
certainly an understatement to say that the

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world has changed considerably since then.

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Earlier this week, the College adopted a
new strategy for the Arctic, which responds

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to that change and is
presented here now today.

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It looks set to place greater emphasis
on security, defense, connectivity, and

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economic security, while binding on our
long-standing commitments to climate action

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scientific cooperation
and indigenous peoples.

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What I would like to say to our two guest
speakers is that this committee, as shown

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at close interest in Arctic matters
throughout the last few year s.

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In November 2025, we adopted our report
on the EU's diplomatic strategy and

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geopolitical cooperation in the Arctic,
where we call for a robust value-based and

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security-oriented strategy.

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Also, I would like to welcome that, as a
follow-up, we commissioned a study entitled

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"Focus on the High North: Upgrading the
EU's Arctic Policy and Protecting the EU's

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Interests in a Rapidly Evolving Region. "
And finally, just a few weeks ago, we sent

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a small delegation to Iceland, where the
E U's Arctic Policy was, of course, also

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core of the discussions in Reykjavík. So,
with all that in mind, we now look forward

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to hearing from you from
the EAS and the Commission:

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how the Joint Communic ation
translates into ambitious action.

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Because the European Union is world
champion in printing papers, we have many

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strategies—it's time for a strategy to
coordinate all our strategies—but we are more

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interested in what does
that mean in practice.

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I will give you now, first, you the floor
for 7 minutes, and then afterwards you,

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Mr. Gray. Then we have time for an exchange
of views, and I will close the meeting

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at quarter to 12 so we can all
vote. The floor is yours, Madam.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Chair,
and very good to be here.

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Honorable Member of the AFET Committee, and
friends of the Arctic, so I'm very happy

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to be invited to present this strategy.
Just days after its adoption, and this

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strategy was the strategy the EU is stepping
up its Arctic engagement, so as you can

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infer from the title of the strategy,
partnership s are key to the successful

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implementation of our ambition. The
northern neighborhood is the cooperation

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framework with our partners. Northern
neighborhood, we conceive it as an inclusive

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framework of interests, values, and
geography, and the term "neighborhood" is here

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to underline the proximity of the European
Union to the wider Ar ctic, and our

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ambition to make the cooperation between
the EU and its Arctic partners more oper

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ational, but also more strategic. So our
message is that we want to work together

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with like-minded partners in our northern
neighborhood, security in our response to

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climate crisis and, above all, we want to
do that tog ether with the people of the

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Arctic and especially indigenous
peoples and local communities.

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So I want to emphasize again that
the neighborhood is not a policy ;

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it is a framework for cooperation. We
had a very successful Arctic sum mit in

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Rovaniemi, in September, where the high
representative and vice president of the

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Commission, Kaja Kallas, particip ated,
and the Rovaniemi summit, the first of its

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kind, sent a powerful message of our new
level of ambition, and it could serve as a

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model for regular high-level joint summits
with our member states and partners to

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discuss shared challenges
and how to address them.

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Now, the structure of the strategy that
you have seen shows that our approach

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remains balanced. It is people-centered,
it is climate-aware, it is security-minded,

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and it is gro unded in
long-term cooperation.

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We have therefore organized the
strategy along four chapters:

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the first one is strengthening security
and resilience, the second one is about

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protecting the environment and addressing
climate change, the third one is about

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supporting the

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Arctic economy and economic security,
and the fourth one contributing to the

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prosperity of the people
liv ing in the Arctic.

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Now, regarding security, the basis of our
updated strategy is not surprising for

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you. You have showed, as the Chair, Mr.
McAllister, underlined, that you have a

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strong interest in the file, you did so
with the own initiative report that was

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issued last year, and also with the Arctic
study that came out last month, and that

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we have re ad carefully. You have along
those reports consistently highlighted the

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need for the EU to address the
ch ange geopolitical landscape.

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Rightly so. And our updated Arctic
strategy reflects also this new reality by

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putting security firmly at its core.
Because the Arctic regions are no longer

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insulated against shifting geopolitical
dynamics, Russ ia's war of aggression

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against Ukraine, Russia's complete
disregard for the rules-based order invi

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olability of borders and territorial
integrity, have made cooperation with Russia

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impossible. Russia is building up its
military capacity in the Arctic, reviving the

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Cola Peninsula as a strategic bastion, and
expanding the capacities of the port of

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Murmansk. In parallel, we are seeing a
steady normalization of more confrontational

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behavior in the region, hybrid threats,
in the Baltic, and increasingly too in the

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Arctic, and a serious concern with
recurring incidents affecting critical

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infrastructure and regional stability.
Russia maritime doctrine is linking the North

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Atlantic, the Arctic,
and the Baltic theaters.

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And we need to adjust to this reality and
regard the Arctic and Baltic regions as a

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continuous interconnected strategic space.

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And finally, we need to leave no doubt
that sovereignty is not negotiable.

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But also to have a safe and secure Arctic,
we need the resilient and prepared and

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populated Ar ctic, and at the heart of this
lies improved infrastructure that would

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boost East-West connection s,
from the Baltic to the Arctic.

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We need infrastructure that is suited
to the Arctic and to both civil

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ian and defensive purposes. This requires
speeding up the implementation of 20

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projects, such as Rail Nordica
project and completing Ra il Baltica.

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We need also to upgrade our vigilance
capacity to safeguard our infrastructure

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against the har sh climate
and hybrid activities.

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This is why we will work to enhance our
situational and maritime domain awareness

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through satellite data, in-situ and remote
sensor observation, and inform ation

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sharing. To do this, we aim to
establish a maritime security hub .

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We want to work with member states to
improve the security of submarine cables in

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the region through an Ar ctic cable hub.
Looking ahead, we hope that this initiative

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can be expanded to a comprehensive maritime
security hub, with member states in the

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lead. We also want to
increase our icebreaker fleet;

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the EU can count
approximately 10 ic ebreakers.

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Whereas Russia has nearly 50 of them. The
EU will need first to map the specific

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need for icebreakers with member states
through the new EU industri al maritime

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value chain alliance, and we will
explore opportunities to pull funding and

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technical resources within the neighborhood,
within their neighborhood grouping,

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that means that we are ready to
re ach out to our partners too.

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Then again, regarding space, Earth observation
and navigation, we want to boost our

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Copernicus and Galileo
coverage. Of the Arctic.

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To improve our ability to monitor land
and sea ice mapping permafrost-related

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changes, oil spill, and
maritime safety in the Arctic.

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To add to Copernicus capacities, a new
Earth observation governmental service will

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support decision-making in security and
defense, and to complement Galileo-free

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navigation services, the EU will initiate
secure navigation services for government

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use with Galileo public regulated service.

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These initiatives highlight that Arctic
security is a key priority for the EU.

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Arctic security is European security. As
the High Representative Vice President said

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in Strasbourg on Tuesday,
Europe has interest to defend.

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It has partners to work with
and responsibilities to meet.

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Europe will not be a
bystander in the Arctic.

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It is a collective effort, which requires
coordination with NATO and with partners.

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I will stop there, and give an opportunity
to my colleague from I NTPAM, Mark Gray,

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to complement on the other point. Thank you
very much, and I look forward to hearing

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your comments and questions.

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Thank you very much for
your introductory statement.

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Before I give the floor to Mr. Gray, I'm
pleased to welcome a group of national

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parliamentarians from Iceland,
Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland to our

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Strasbourg for the 66th meeting of
the EAA Joint Parliamentary Committee.

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Welcome, dear colleagues,
to the European Parliament.

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Mr. Gray.

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Thank you so much, Chair. Honorable members,
thank you for the invitation and I can

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also also like to express my welcome to
members from national parliaments and we've

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met quite a number of them
very recently in Reykjavík.

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I want to begin by paying tribute to this
parliament and the recommendations and the

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study that has been very much a foundation
also for the drafting of this joint

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communication. It's been an
extensive consultation process.

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We've tried to listen as much as we can,
and I think many of the key elements that

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have been set out by this House are
captured in the joint communication.

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I want to make three points, and I'm going
to try not to repeat what has just been

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said. First, very briefly,
why are we doing this?

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Two, that shift of political framing that
I think is important but if I can also

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respond to the Chair.
Strategies are nice, but what.

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Are you actually going to do about it? So
I will try and spend most of the time on

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that. In terms of why are we doing this, I
think the special envoy court has set out

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very nicely the changing situation. I
think the reality is that this is not an up

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date of a strategy. This is a new
strategy, to adapt to a new reality.

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And that reality is changing faster
than probably any of us could expect.

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We now see that the Arctic
is a geopolitical theater.

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We see that it risks to
become a security theater.

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We have seen claims made on the Arctic
and parts of it, and I think with the

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European Union's exper ience, whether that
be in Ukraine or in terms of our response

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to Greenland we uphold the principles of
territorial integrity and sovereignty.

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That brings me to my
second point, the framing.

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We are addressing this through a new lens.

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And it's a partnership lens, and
again, with a number of colle agues.

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At the back of this room, that we've
discussed in Norway, in Iceland, in Canada,

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with the United States, Greenland, Faroe
Islands, this is about building a strategy

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that ver y much brings together
like-minded partners to address the iss

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ues of concern. For us, the framing
matters because the northern neighborhood

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precisely conveys the
s ense of criticality.

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The closeness, the connectiveness
that this issue brings.

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What we are trying to do is to show what
the European Union means for the Arctic,

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but also what the Arctic
means for the European Union.

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And that we stand and
support our neighbors.

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I think that's obviously true for the
three European Union member stat es in the

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Arctic, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, but
this is a strategy for the whole of the

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European Union. But now I want to turn to,
in a sense, the Chair's challenge of what

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about this? How are we going
to turn this into reality?

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And I think what you have seen in this
strategy is a complete mobilization of the

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whole Commission . This is not just a
strategy of DG INTPA and the EES, and I should

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pay tribute in particular to DG MA RI, who
have played a fundamental role over many

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years. This is a strategy that, if
you go through it, has got real meat;

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there is a whole set of deliverables here,
across a whole set of areas, whether that

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be as has been mentioned on digital,
on space, on transport, on critical raw

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materials, on research, on innovation,
on tourism, et cetera, et cetera.

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There is a lot of, there are a whole set
of proposals here, that look at the Arctic

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from that dual-use perspective, so not
simply from a military or simply from a

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civilian. We are trying to build
capabilities that c ross those two different

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issues, whether that be in terms of
space, again, whether that be in terms of

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transport. Of course, we're very aware that
there is a special fragility around the

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Arctic. And that is why when we look at
issues like critical raw materials, we

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absolutely underline the environ mental,
social, and governance standards.

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It's when we look at renewable energy we
are very clear and strong on our commitment

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on at least what the European Union can
do in terms of the moratorium on oil, gas,

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and coal in the Arctic. When we look
at the economy, we look at it from the

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perspective of what can we do concretely

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? That benefits the people of the Arctic.
And again, I come back to the point about

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how much we've placed emphasis on working
together with the peoples of the Arctic:

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indigenous peoples, local communities, to
build a number of very actionable po ints

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that will directly benefit them. Whether
that be, as I say, fisheries, blue economy,

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small and medium enterprises,
tourism, et cetera.

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So there is a whole final section of the
communication that addresses the people

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dimens ion. But I want to conclude with,
in a sense, a question of what happens nex

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t. The first thing to say is that yes, this
is a strategy, so it's not a legislative

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proposal, it doesn't have a detailed
timeline, a detailed action plan, a costings

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for each initiative. But this
is not business as usual.

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Already next week, the. Commissioner
Sickola has been asked to follow up on the

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implementation of the strategy. Already
next week, DG INTPA will convene a meeting

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of all DGs, to bring together all the
different strands across the Commission, to

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now go one by one, strand by strand, of
how we take each one of these actionable

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points and take them forward. So it's, from
our perspective, not a case of we write

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a strategy and we come back in a few
mon ths' time to consider what we did.

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We start already next week, concretely
looking at how we take this forward.

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Thank you for your attention.

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Right, thank you to both our guest speakers
and now we have time for an exchange of

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views. As always, I first give the floor
to the coordinators for two minutes each,

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and Łukasz Kuhut is speaking for VEPP.

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Thank you very much. Dear Chair, nothing
unites people like a common enemy, our

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enemy comes from the east. It is a threat
to us all, especially those in central and

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eastern Europe, and the north . As the
strategy rightly says, the Arctic, the North

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Atlantic, and the Baltic Sea are becoming
one interconnected strategic space.

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What happens in one affects
the security of all Europe.

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Hybrid attacks are hitting us everywhere.
GPS jamming, cable sabotage, drones over

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our infrastructure, and the
shadow fleet in our waters.

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The high north is part of the same front.
We cannot protect Europe while leaving the

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high north exposed. The Arctic is a
second gateway to Europe and must be fully

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protected. As the Standing Rapporteur for
Norway and on behalf of Mika Aaltola, the

00:21:49.705 --> 00:21:55.391
Rapporteur for the Arctic, we believe
that the strategy is moving in the right

00:21:55.464 --> 00:21:59.692
direction by providing concrete
tools to enhance security.

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Firstly, the maritime security hub will
enable us to share information from various

00:22:05.888 --> 00:22:11.720
national and EU sources, from the Seabed
to space, tracking Russian shadow fleet

00:22:11.793 --> 00:22:17.843
vessels must be a priority. Europe has
concrete tools such as air observation data,

00:22:17.916 --> 00:22:21.196
Copernicus, and navigation
serv ices Galileo.

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Secondly, the Arctic Cable Hub is another
initiative that could monitor and protect

00:22:27.393 --> 00:22:31.694
submarine cables in the North
Atlant ic and Arctic regions.

00:22:31.767 --> 00:22:35.411
Critical infrastructure
is essential for security.

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Nowadays, thirdly, we must expand European
icebreaker capacity, as you mentioned,

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including through the new EU industrial
maritime value chains alliance.

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European Polar Vessels must
balance the power in the region.

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Vigilance and preparedness are essential.
The EU must operate in various dimensions,

00:22:57.353 --> 00:23:02.238
such as defense, including milit
ary mobility and civil protection.

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We already know how to do this in the
Baltic and across the European Arct ic.

00:23:07.996 --> 00:23:12.808
Now these tools need real funding
in the new EU budget, of course.

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I believe that, like-minded partners in
the region, such as Norway, Canada, and

00:23:18.712 --> 00:23:21.774
Iceland, will thread the strategy as an op

00:23:21.834 --> 00:23:24.696
portunity to develop
also their capacities.

00:23:24.763 --> 00:23:26.094
Thank you very much.

00:23:28.314 --> 00:23:31.734
Thank you, Łukasz, for the
S&D, Andreas Schieder, please.

00:23:32.514 --> 00:23:36.019
Yeah, good morning, and
thanks for the presentation.

00:23:36.086 --> 00:23:41.546
And I have the honor to speak also on
behalf of our S&D Shadow Rapporteur, Robert

00:23:41.614 --> 00:23:47.073
Piet ron, who regrets not to be here. But
I also particularly pleased that we are

00:23:47.141 --> 00:23:52.803
accompanied today with colleagues from the
Norwegian and Icelandic Parliament, which

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also let's say part of the Arctic. And
as previously has been pointed out, 2021

00:23:58.262 --> 00:24:02.239
strategy is no longer reflecting
the reality which we have.

00:24:02.307 --> 00:24:07.834
We see that it's becoming increasingly
volatile and also geopolitically sensitive,

00:24:07.901 --> 00:24:13.024
and theref ore we need this update. And
the high representative rightly said

00:24:13.091 --> 00:24:18.619
already, Arctic security is European
security, and it's also about this rule-based

00:24:18.686 --> 00:24:24.213
order, and we have to say that the Arctic
in the past, even in the coldest days of

00:24:24.280 --> 00:24:28.392
the Cold W ar, was a rule-based
order respected by everybody.

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And this compromise now is shaken.
We have Russia, we have China.

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There, we have to protect our critical
infrastructure, the cable hub that was

00:24:38.166 --> 00:24:43.828
already mentioned, and also the . Still in
the future partnership must be one of the

00:24:43.895 --> 00:24:47.535
key pillars, as you also
pointed out, of the strategy.

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And especially important is to strengthen
the EU partnership with Greenland, while

00:24:53.197 --> 00:24:58.589
also always saying we resp ect the
Greenland's right to decide its own future in

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close cooperation with
the Denmark kingdom.

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And we also should continue to deepen
our relations with Norway, Iceland, and

00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:11.531
Canada, as they are part ners which
are sharing the values as stable.

00:25:11.598 --> 00:25:16.182
I have to say, not like others. And
then there's the climate change.

00:25:16.249 --> 00:25:21.372
The Arctic warmly nearly is warming
nearly four times faster than the global

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average, and already the
global average is enough.

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So four times more is even a big
disaster, so we have to look on this.

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And there is the question
of critical raw materials.

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Where we have to look also that extraction
is sustainable and meets the highest

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environmental and social standards, but
also respecting the rights of the indigenous

00:25:44.357 --> 00:25:49.951
people. And this is my last point. I think
we have to understand that the Arctic is

00:25:50.019 --> 00:25:55.074
an area where people are living, and
living condition is important, but hav

00:25:55.074 --> 00:26:00.005
ing people living there is also the
answer of the strategic challenges of the

00:26:00.069 --> 00:26:01.734
Arctic. Thank you so much.

00:26:03.054 --> 00:26:09.737
Thank you, Andreas who would like to
take the floor for the Patriots group?

00:26:09.826 --> 00:26:16.330
Nobody for the ECR? Then for Renew
Group, I give the floor to Marie-Agnès

00:26:16.419 --> 00:26:17.934
Stark-Simmermann.

00:26:18.474 --> 00:26:22.235
Thank you very much, David. I do
not want to repeat myself on that.

00:26:22.291 --> 00:26:25.266
I do not want to repeat what
my colleagues have said.

00:26:25.322 --> 00:26:29.869
But the Arctic is not just a land of
adventure, a wonderful one, but also a major

00:26:29.925 --> 00:26:34.640
issue in the security field. And I am very
pleased that Europe is finally addressing

00:26:34.696 --> 00:26:39.019
this issue, this topic. It is not without
reason that we will also be working

00:26:39.075 --> 00:26:43.790
closely with Canada on this issue in future,
especially when we note that the border

00:26:43.846 --> 00:26:48.505
between Canada and Denmark is more than
3,000 It is no coincidence that we are also

00:26:48.561 --> 00:26:53.276
working closely with Canada on this issue
in the future when we note that the border

00:26:53.332 --> 00:26:57.542
between Canada and Denmark is a maritime
border over 3,000 kilometres long.

00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:01.752
We are already connected in that regard.
And in view of this world that is

00:27:01.809 --> 00:27:06.524
increasingly coming apart at the seams, it
is of great importance to look at what we

00:27:06.580 --> 00:27:10.565
can do, what we must do. In terms of
security policy—and to put it in a

00:27:10.621 --> 00:27:13.091
nutshell—thank you very
much for this paper.

00:27:13.147 --> 00:27:17.750
We should continue working on this, but
it is not just about talking about it, but

00:27:17.806 --> 00:27:20.276
also about being clear
about what we can do.

00:27:20.332 --> 00:27:24.430
The report does say a lot. The topic
of Greenland has just been taken up.

00:27:24.486 --> 00:27:28.808
What we experienced last year, by the
way, Europe stood in a truly very solid

00:27:28.865 --> 00:27:31.952
position, alongside Denmark
and Greenland respectively.

00:27:32.008 --> 00:27:35.039
This shows that when we stand
together, it is helpful.

00:27:35.095 --> 00:27:39.474
Simply looking is not enough. We need
to have our strategy and we also need to

00:27:39.530 --> 00:27:44.077
enforce it robustly, verbally robustly.
So as not to open up another front there.

00:27:44.133 --> 00:27:45.333
Thank you.

00:27:47.574 --> 00:27:51.294
Thank you, colleague. Next speaker
for the Greens is Mr Niinistö.

00:27:52.674 --> 00:27:57.128
Thank you, Chair. And thank you for
the Commission for the representing the

00:27:57.187 --> 00:28:01.938
strategy. Obviously, there are a lot of
improvements from the last strategy, but

00:28:01.997 --> 00:28:04.788
there are also some
worries that our group has.

00:28:04.848 --> 00:28:09.539
So I will focus mainly on those. We think
that the improvements on geopolitical

00:28:09.598 --> 00:28:14.230
understanding and the importance of that
situation, I think there are a lot of

00:28:14.290 --> 00:28:19.218
improvements in that. I think it's important
that we prepare for the Russian hybrid

00:28:19.278 --> 00:28:22.187
threats. We act against
the Russian shadow fleet.

00:28:22.247 --> 00:28:26.998
We could do even more on that. But I will
focus now more as a former environment

00:28:27.057 --> 00:28:32.045
minister for environment of Finland, on the
environmental and climate responsibility

00:28:32.104 --> 00:28:35.846
that the EU has in the Arctic.
Arctic is a very sensitive area.

00:28:35.905 --> 00:28:40.774
I mean, if species have to move northwards,
they have nowhere left to go if global

00:28:40.834 --> 00:28:44.516
warming continues. They are very
many biodiversity-rich areas.

00:28:44.575 --> 00:28:48.019
Under sea areas, for example,
which are not yet protected.

00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.642
So it's one of the least protected
areas still in the world.

00:28:51.701 --> 00:28:56.511
And EU and my own country when I was a
minister, we worked a lot to inc rease the

00:28:56.570 --> 00:29:01.380
protected areas in the region and also
work for the moratorium on the fossil fuel

00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:05.953
extrac tion. I see that in these issues,
in this strategy, there is a bit of

00:29:06.012 --> 00:29:09.041
backtracking from 2021.
That's at least my feeling.

00:29:09.100 --> 00:29:14.029
So if you can alleviate my worries and also
answer my question, because I feel that

00:29:14.088 --> 00:29:18.661
the geopolitical challenges and the
environmental challenges are interlinked.

00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:23.709
Partly we have geopolitical threats in the
Arctic if we don't create better rules on

00:29:23.768 --> 00:29:28.697
stopping over-exploitation. So the better
rules we have on areas of no-go where you

00:29:28.756 --> 00:29:33.744
can't economically exploit the resources
in the most sensitive northern areas, if we

00:29:33.804 --> 00:29:38.733
can have a moratorium there, it will also
ease the pressures of different countries

00:29:38.792 --> 00:29:41.880
fighting for those resources,
including also Russia.

00:29:41.939 --> 00:29:46.571
I have to say also that often historically,
if there has been protected areas,

00:29:46.630 --> 00:29:51.559
Russia has respected them. So if we do make
international treaties in these issues,

00:29:51.619 --> 00:29:53.994
it's a progress where we can also reduce

00:29:54.114 --> 00:29:58.488
the risk of geopolitical tension. And the
same applies to IMO as well and maritime

00:29:58.542 --> 00:30:02.649
traffic. We have to make sure that there
is a higher standard of what kind of

00:30:02.703 --> 00:30:07.183
criteria the vessels that move into the
Arctic waters fill , because the risk of oil

00:30:07.237 --> 00:30:11.451
spill is very high and there's the European
waters and European coasts that are

00:30:11.504 --> 00:30:15.825
also. Affected by that. So I would like
you to answer a bit more about my worries

00:30:15.879 --> 00:30:20.200
that there is still focus on environmental
regulations and standards globally and

00:30:20.253 --> 00:30:24.307
you are not forgetting that and that
goes hand in hand with the geopolitics.

00:30:24.361 --> 00:30:25.561
Thank you.

00:30:27.414 --> 00:30:31.438
Thank you. Who would like to
take the floor for the left?

00:30:31.508 --> 00:30:33.414
Please, madam. Two minutes.

00:30:37.554 --> 00:30:44.038
Thank you. Mr. Chair, the new Arctic strategy
is an important step forward, but let

00:30:44.116 --> 00:30:48.959
me be clear. Strategy is only
as strong as its implementation.

00:30:49.037 --> 00:30:53.880
From Nordic perspective, the
Arctic is not Europe's periphery.

00:30:53.959 --> 00:30:59.114
It is an integral part of our
security competitiveness and future.

00:30:59.192 --> 00:31:02.551
I would like to highlight
three priorities.

00:31:02.629 --> 00:31:06.535
First, security must be
backed by concrete action.

00:31:06.613 --> 00:31:12.238
Russia's war against Ukraine has
fundamentally changed Europe's security

00:31:12.316 --> 00:31:18.878
environment. We must strengthen our
preparedness, protect official infra and improve

00:31:18.956 --> 00:31:22.315
our ability to respond
to emerging threats.

00:31:22.393 --> 00:31:28.642
This requires closer cooperation between
the EU-NATO and the Nordic partners, as

00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:34.579
well as concrete investments in Arctic
infra and security and especially in

00:31:34.657 --> 00:31:40.985
transport area. We cannot afford the threat
Arctic security as a secondary issue.

00:31:41.063 --> 00:31:47.625
Second, we must turn Europe-Arctic ambitions
also into smart investments innovations

00:31:47.703 --> 00:31:54.108
and jobs. We have world-class expertise
in many areas in Arctic rese arch, digital

00:31:54.187 --> 00:31:59.733
solutions, expertise in strategic
assets for the entire European Union.

00:31:59.811 --> 00:32:05.826
In the north part of Europe, the EU must
ensure that ambitious translate into

00:32:05.904 --> 00:32:12.388
concrete projects stronger industrial
capacity and long-term economic opportunities

00:32:12.466 --> 00:32:18.950
for Arctic regions. I'm not saying again
what my dear colleague Ville Niinistö said

00:32:19.028 --> 00:32:25.590
about climate and environmental issues. I
don't misuse your time, but I'm totally on

00:32:25.668 --> 00:32:31.604
the same line with him. And I think he
will support me as a former transport

00:32:31.683 --> 00:32:35.432
minister with the transport
roads in the Arctic.

00:32:35.510 --> 00:32:42.072
Area. I think words are not enough. We need
also funding, investments and measurable

00:32:42.150 --> 00:32:48.321
results. And third, security and economic
development must go hand in hand with

00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:53.321
environmental responsibility and
respect for local communities.

00:32:53.399 --> 00:32:59.883
So some people and other ingenious communities
must be respected and local people m

00:32:59.961 --> 00:33:05.195
ust have a meaningful role in this
system's affecting their future.

00:33:05.273 --> 00:33:06.473
Thank you.

00:33:08.754 --> 00:33:13.540
Thank you. And finally, for the ESN group,
would somebody like to take the floor?

00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:18.563
That is not the case. When I now get the
floor to our effort standing rapporteur for

00:33:18.622 --> 00:33:20.454
the Arctic, Urmas Pike, please.

00:33:22.794 --> 00:33:28.656
Thank you very much. Thank you, dear
colleagues from the Commission and external

00:33:28.729 --> 00:33:32.027
action service and of
course from this House.

00:33:32.100 --> 00:33:38.182
I have been following and dealing with
Arctic issues in the European Parliament for

00:33:38.255 --> 00:33:44.044
the last 10 years already, so that I have
seen lots of changes in the attitude,

00:33:44.117 --> 00:33:50.199
which is, I would say, unfortunately under
g iven circumstances of course positive,

00:33:50.272 --> 00:33:54.522
that we pay much more attention
to developments in Arctic.

00:33:54.595 --> 00:34:00.677
If I recall, which was the attitude and
comments around 10 years ago, why at all we

00:34:00.751 --> 00:34:06.686
should deal with Ar ctic and if we look
today that the main center is in security

00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:12.328
issues, then y es, we have noticed huge
and then big changes in this regard.

00:34:12.401 --> 00:34:18.190
I'm of course very happy that finally
there is also new European Union's Arctic

00:34:18.263 --> 00:34:24.052
strategy. Of course I fully agree that
the implementation is the most important

00:34:24.125 --> 00:34:30.134
element here. And I just want to mention
a few points where I think that comparing

00:34:30.207 --> 00:34:36.142
also with the European Parliament's last
year's recom mendation were actually 510

00:34:36.216 --> 00:34:40.026
members of this House
supported this recommendation.

00:34:40.099 --> 00:34:45.595
This is actually rather big majority.
Which also expresses large and united

00:34:45.668 --> 00:34:50.578
understanding about Arctic developments
in the European Parliament.

00:34:50.651 --> 00:34:54.241
Well, a few things which
I still want to mention.

00:34:54.315 --> 00:35:00.323
Of course I understand why maybe some of
them are not in this new European Union's

00:35:00.396 --> 00:35:05.452
Ar ctic strategy, but still I guess
we should keep them in our minds.

00:35:05.526 --> 00:35:08.750
European Union's future,
I mean enlargement.

00:35:08.823 --> 00:35:14.539
Yes, we got message from Iceland from
August, but still I guess European Union

00:35:14.612 --> 00:35:20.474
itself should have its do ors open and
be very welcoming and positive about this

00:35:20.547 --> 00:35:26.556
kind of develop ments because it's always
better to have for instance two security

00:35:26.629 --> 00:35:32.784
nets than one. Today we have NATO, but well
looking at the developments in the world

00:35:32.857 --> 00:35:38.719
I would say that EU in this regard is
very important new contributor to European

00:35:38.793 --> 00:35:42.603
security. Second element
energy and energy security.

00:35:42.676 --> 00:35:48.758
I of course share the concerns of my
colleagues from Green Group and Left, but this

00:35:48.831 --> 00:35:53.814
is of course the issue where we
have to find adequate balance point.

00:35:54.174 --> 00:35:59.395
Because at the same time we also speak
that energy security of Europe is very

00:35:59.463 --> 00:36:04.684
important, but the most secure ener gy
we can have is energy which comes from

00:36:04.752 --> 00:36:10.176
Europe. And in this regard of course
Norway is very important contributor to the

00:36:10.244 --> 00:36:15.940
European energy security. And unfortunately
whatever EU says be it moratorium, be it

00:36:16.008 --> 00:36:21.093
whatever, well I have my doubts that
Russian or Chinese will care about it.

00:36:21.161 --> 00:36:26.654
So that we should avoid also the situation
that with our regulations and with our

00:36:26.721 --> 00:36:32.417
attitude we only in final end man age to
influence the most secure and environmental

00:36:32.485 --> 00:36:35.943
friendly energy production
in North. I mean Norway.

00:36:36.011 --> 00:36:41.029
And the others who don't have such a
high standards do whatever they want.

00:36:41.096 --> 00:36:45.911
So that in this sense I guess the
balance point here is very important.

00:36:45.979 --> 00:36:51.403
Thirdly, I'm glad that also I would say
finally European Commission and external

00:36:51.471 --> 00:36:56.353
action service are taking Arctic
issues much more seriously than before.

00:36:56.421 --> 00:37:02.117
And in this regard I guess that also the
adequate structures and empowerment of this

00:37:02.184 --> 00:37:07.745
field is important. Fourthly, China. We
speak a lot about Russia and when we speak

00:37:07.812 --> 00:37:13.508
about security in Arctic, but of course we
should much more also keep eye on Chinese

00:37:13.576 --> 00:37:19.068
activities in this regard. And to stop
here I also would like to see that in this

00:37:19.136 --> 00:37:24.764
House before the end of this mandate we
once aga in come back to Arctic issues also

00:37:24.832 --> 00:37:26.934
in our plenary hall. Thank you.

00:37:28.314 --> 00:37:32.688
Thank you, Urmas. As a Vice Chair of our
Committee, you know that you can sometimes

00:37:32.740 --> 00:37:34.374
be generous with speaking time.

00:37:36.294 --> 00:37:39.805
Yes, thank you, but I felt that
there is not such a strong pressure.

00:37:39.856 --> 00:37:41.056
But sorry, sorry.

00:37:43.314 --> 00:37:45.708
So thank you, Urmas.
Also for your good work.

00:37:45.761 --> 00:37:48.048
Now, who else would
like to take the floor?

00:37:48.101 --> 00:37:50.814
First, Hannah Jalul. Please
raise your hand, Ville.

00:37:52.554 --> 00:37:57.435
Thank you very much. I can see from all
our interventions that the main worry we

00:37:57.496 --> 00:38:02.621
have all of us I think here is the issue
of en vironmental topic that I think all of

00:38:02.682 --> 00:38:07.686
us are worried with this new strategies,
local communiti es, what is the guarantee

00:38:07.747 --> 00:38:12.689
that we respect the local communities.
And something is important for us that has

00:38:12.750 --> 00:38:17.814
been mentioned before, a part of everything
related to the environment is crit ical

00:38:17.875 --> 00:38:20.438
raw materials. How is this addressed here?

00:38:20.499 --> 00:38:23.183
What is the clear
strategy on raw materials?

00:38:23.244 --> 00:38:28.125
I think about communities, environment,
everything, but how is our policy on raw

00:38:28.186 --> 00:38:33.007
materials has been mentioned also. When
we talk about international actors, you

00:38:33.068 --> 00:38:37.827
know, I know that the main worry also
for us here is China, Russ ia, how these

00:38:37.888 --> 00:38:42.891
actors are involved there, how the European
Union can have our own leverage on the

00:38:42.952 --> 00:38:47.894
issue. Which it is very important. And
something I was reading the other day that

00:38:47.955 --> 00:38:52.897
maritime ro utes now that are coming from
other parts of the world because of the

00:38:52.958 --> 00:38:57.901
defrosting and things like this that what
will be very interesting to hear from y

00:38:57.962 --> 00:39:02.477
ou. Thank you very much and indeed
because this meeting is very important.

00:39:02.538 --> 00:39:07.663
This is going to be a very important topic
for the European Union in the next years.

00:39:07.724 --> 00:39:08.924
Thank you.

00:39:10.314 --> 00:39:11.694
Thank you, Ville, please.

00:39:12.714 --> 00:39:19.293
Since I'm a Danish MEP, I'm very much
interested in the Greenlandic part of it.

00:39:19.377 --> 00:39:26.206
I visited Greenland a month ago. It was
the same month where the agreement between

00:39:26.289 --> 00:39:31.120
the US and Greenland and Denmark
was ratified in New York.

00:39:31.203 --> 00:39:37.949
So it was very much a sense of relief.
And I think everyone who visited Greenland

00:39:38.032 --> 00:39:44.945
has a feeling how much threatened the
population of Greenland felt in this case not

00:39:45.028 --> 00:39:48.693
from Russia and China
but from the USA. And.

00:39:48.776 --> 00:39:55.272
I think it's very important therefore
that the outcome of the agreement was an

00:39:55.356 --> 00:40:01.935
agreement that NATO sho uld play a much
more central role in the defense of the

00:40:02.018 --> 00:40:05.683
northern of Greenland
which I think is good.

00:40:05.766 --> 00:40:11.513
It's a good exchange for bilateral
agreement between Denmark and U S.

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That it's now a multilateral
agreement. That's there.

00:40:16.093 --> 00:40:23.089
In the what's security is concerned. Another
thing worrying about the geopolitical a

00:40:23.172 --> 00:40:30.085
lot more difficult situation is that
Greenland is only connected with two cables to

00:40:30.168 --> 00:40:37.164
the rest of the world. If these ones are
cut the communication possibilities for big

00:40:37.247 --> 00:40:43.827
parts of Greenland is changed. I wonder
if you have some use about what actions

00:40:43.910 --> 00:40:50.406
could be taken there. And then I think
you are approached to this that it's we

00:40:50.490 --> 00:40:56.070
people living there as a central
part is a very very important one.

00:40:56.153 --> 00:41:02.899
Because I think that's been also in the
struggle with the US, the Danish approach

00:41:02.982 --> 00:41:08.562
that nothing there should be made
without the people liv ing there.

00:41:08.646 --> 00:41:12.227
And I think this approach
is important one.

00:41:12.310 --> 00:41:16.974
I think see the hammer is
raised so thank you very much.

00:41:18.534 --> 00:41:21.678
Thank you. Who else would
like to take the floor?

00:41:21.742 --> 00:41:27.003
Then before I hand over to our guest
speakers for their closing statements of each

00:41:27.067 --> 00:41:32.328
five minut es, let me just also add that
I very much welcome that the strategy has

00:41:32.392 --> 00:41:37.524
been updated and that it is a joint
ownership of the European Commission and the

00:41:37.589 --> 00:41:42.978
European External Action Service. So we I
think have a really good strategy in place

00:41:43.042 --> 00:41:48.431
but of course action speaks not words. And
one of the first litmus tests will be how

00:41:48.495 --> 00:41:53.628
much of this will be seen the MFF for the
next period because of course all will

00:41:53.692 --> 00:41:59.017
cost a lot of money. Since we're running
out of time I will not go into any details

00:41:59.081 --> 00:42:04.278
many were addressed by the colleagues. I
will close this meeting at 22 so we have

00:42:04.342 --> 00:42:07.101
five minutes each. Who
would like to begin?

00:42:07.165 --> 00:42:08.365
Madame.

00:42:12.954 --> 00:42:18.050
Thank you very much, Mr.
Chair. And thank you very much.

00:42:18.141 --> 00:42:25.693
Honorable members I'm very happy to see
from the comments that we see eye to eye on

00:42:25.784 --> 00:42:32.700
the situation of the Arctic and the
fact that today's strategic and security

00:42:32.791 --> 00:42:38.888
landscape call for revisiting
seriously our approach to the Arctic.

00:42:38.979 --> 00:42:44.074
As Mr. Urma Pat underlined,
we're not new to the Arctic.

00:42:44.165 --> 00:42:51.445
We started our first policy on the Arctic
in 2008 and we're already at the fifth

00:42:51.536 --> 00:42:58.816
iteration. But gradually we increase our
involvement on Arctic affairs and we've

00:42:58.907 --> 00:43:06.277
increased also the importance we give to
security without walking back on the key

00:43:06.368 --> 00:43:12.010
elements that are environment,
climate change, and the people.

00:43:12.101 --> 00:43:19.654
Someone mentioned the importance of standards
and notably IMO, I want to high light

00:43:19.745 --> 00:43:26.751
that the Arctic is neither a place empty
of people nor a place with no rules.

00:43:26.842 --> 00:43:34.304
There are rules supplying to the Arctic.
And definitely IMO is one of the key rule

00:43:34.395 --> 00:43:41.311
setter for the Arctic and the shipping.
And we will continue to be extremely

00:43:41.402 --> 00:43:49.045
involved in those framework bec ause the
pollution that can come from shipping is an

00:43:49.136 --> 00:43:53.140
area that we can that
we must keep in focus.

00:43:53.231 --> 00:44:00.875
A third point of partnerships. Partnerships
as you've seen are central to the way we

00:44:00.966 --> 00:44:08.427
see our policy for the Arctic. And partnership
will take a very concrete step soon

00:44:08.518 --> 00:44:15.707
as we prepare for the summit with Canada
at the end of the month and the Arctic

00:44:15.798 --> 00:44:23.169
issues will be discussed with Canada.
There is also a potential to strengthen our

00:44:23.260 --> 00:44:30.812
cooperation with the UK which is not an
Arctic state but a key state in the EU gap,

00:44:30.903 --> 00:44:38.456
the Greenland Iceland UK gap. And as we
prepare for the EU UK summit on the 20th of

00:44:38.547 --> 00:44:46.009
November and the security and defense
partnership with the UK importantly includes

00:44:46.099 --> 00:44:53.743
the mention of Arctic issues. And my
counterparts in the UK have already reached out

00:44:53.834 --> 00:45:00.477
to me to discuss how we can see and
how we can collaborate on this issue.

00:45:00.568 --> 00:45:07.756
Norway and Iceland of course we have
security and defense partnership with this

00:45:07.847 --> 00:45:14.763
countries. And we have already an Arctic
dialogue with Norway and we wish to

00:45:14.854 --> 00:45:16.674
continue this dialog

00:45:16.734 --> 00:45:23.742
ue and with Iceland there is a whole
paragraph on Arctic issues in our security and

00:45:23.826 --> 00:45:30.580
defense partnership with Iceland and that
will be another opportunity to discuss

00:45:30.665 --> 00:45:37.588
what we can do together. Regarding Greenland
I will leave to my colleague from the

00:45:37.672 --> 00:45:44.173
commission to speak about the co operation
frame but we as European have been

00:45:44.258 --> 00:45:51.096
unambiguous in l ending our support to
the kingdom of Denmark to Greenland and to

00:45:51.181 --> 00:45:58.273
Denmark. And we have all welcome the
trilateral agreement that is streng thening the

00:45:58.357 --> 00:46:04.943
security in the Arctic and we will
continue to stay with behind the kingdom of

00:46:05.027 --> 00:46:08.826
Denmark. The kingdom of
Denmark has our back.

00:46:08.911 --> 00:46:16.003
And to conclude on the implementation we've
worked very closely with all services of

00:46:16.087 --> 00:46:22.588
the comm ission to produce this strategy
and we will continue to work for its

00:46:22.673 --> 00:46:29.596
implementation. You are right that
implementation will be key and you are right to

00:46:29.680 --> 00:46:36.181
mention that the MFF will be key. Some
actions can already be taken under the

00:46:36.266 --> 00:46:43.189
current MFF. For example adding some
satellites to increase the observation of the

00:46:43.273 --> 00:46:50.112
Arctic territor y. But some will need to
be backed by the future financing of the

00:46:50.196 --> 00:46:56.951
EU. Highlighting also that the foreign
affair council will now follow up on this

00:46:57.035 --> 00:47:04.043
strategy and as the foreign affair council
follows up on this strategy I hope and I

00:47:04.127 --> 00:47:10.628
look forward to stay in conta ct with
the AFET and the European Parliament to

00:47:10.713 --> 00:47:14.934
prepare for those conclusion.
Thank you very much.

00:47:16.614 --> 00:47:19.033
Sure. We will certainly remain in contact.

00:47:19.091 --> 00:47:21.625
This topic is always
high on our agenda. Mr.

00:47:21.683 --> 00:47:22.883
Gray please.

00:47:23.994 --> 00:47:30.916
Thank you and I would like to thank the
Honorable Members for their extremely

00:47:31.006 --> 00:47:38.378
salient points on many ke y issues. I'm
going to start with the chair's firstly in

00:47:38.468 --> 00:47:45.929
terms of the MFF I think we would love to
be able to put a bill in the text and say

00:47:46.019 --> 00:47:53.301
this is where it will all come from. I
think we would argue that its simply under

00:47:53.391 --> 00:47:58.515
lines the wisdom of the
commission's proposal on the MFF.

00:47:58.605 --> 00:48:06.067
In the sense of you can see actions here
that will require funding from heading one

00:48:06.157 --> 00:48:13.528
from heading two from heading three it
will require a mobilization of member state

00:48:13.618 --> 00:48:21.170
funding and of course we have already the
very clear commitment of the commission on

00:48:21.260 --> 00:48:25.575
Greenland to double the
funding in the next MFF.

00:48:25.665 --> 00:48:32.587
So I think from our side there is a very
clear will and I think we hope ver y

00:48:32.677 --> 00:48:39.779
strongly that that logic in terms of an
issue like the Ar ctic is underlined as

00:48:39.869 --> 00:48:47.150
final decisions are taken on the budget.
My second point I want to bring together

00:48:47.240 --> 00:48:54.612
Greenland and people bec ause I very much
agree with the assessment that basically

00:48:54.702 --> 00:49:02.164
anything we try to do in this strategy we
need to do it together with the people of

00:49:02.253 --> 00:49:09.715
the Arctic. Because only they really
understand I think the challenges that we face

00:49:09.805 --> 00:49:17.357
on a whole series of particular issues and
that's why it's so important that we work

00:49:17.446 --> 00:49:24.728
so closely together. That's why there's
a lot of emphasis in the communication in

00:49:24.818 --> 00:49:28.953
the final chapter on
dialog ue and engagement.

00:49:29.043 --> 00:49:34.078
A very particular focus on
engagement with young people.

00:49:34.168 --> 00:49:41.719
I think both the high representative but
also the commissioner have spent quite some

00:49:41.809 --> 00:49:49.091
time in their engagements tal king to
young people across the Arctic to very much

00:49:49.181 --> 00:49:53.136
try to listen and
understand their concerns.

00:49:53.226 --> 00:49:59.969
I want to move next to the climate.
I'd like to already state that from our

00:50:00.058 --> 00:50:06.801
perspective we do not see a backtracking.
I think it was very important the

00:50:06.891 --> 00:50:14.173
statement that was made that you need to
look at the geopolitical and the climate

00:50:14.263 --> 00:50:21.814
together. There is a complete a full chapter
in the communication on the climate and

00:50:21.904 --> 00:50:26.309
that to be very open was
done very intentionally.

00:50:26.399 --> 00:50:30.714
We wanted to send a very
clear message of the un

00:50:30.834 --> 00:50:34.747
precedented scale of the
challenge we see and.

00:50:34.832 --> 00:50:41.723
If you look at AMOC and the discussions
that are taking place on that and you see

00:50:41.808 --> 00:50:48.869
ver y quickly the real climate emergency
we face the same deb ate on permafrost the

00:50:48.954 --> 00:50:56.015
same debate on pollution and that is why
you will see through th roughout this text

00:50:56.100 --> 00:51:03.161
a set of key deliverables on the climate
itself but then as you look at each one of

00:51:03.246 --> 00:51:08.606
the sectors the climate dimension
is very much reflected there.

00:51:08.691 --> 00:51:15.837
As has been mentioned by the special envoy
I think the IMO regulations point when we

00:51:15.922 --> 00:51:22.642
look at pol lution when we look at
emissions of black carbon emissions from the

00:51:22.727 --> 00:51:27.661
Arctic very clearly set out
also within the communication.

00:51:27.746 --> 00:51:34.722
Of course it would be remiss of me not to
mention the question of hydrocarb ons in

00:51:34.807 --> 00:51:41.953
the Arctic there's been a lot of press
coverage as there was I think always going to

00:51:42.038 --> 00:51:47.993
be whatever the language was there
I think yeah the president the high

00:51:48.078 --> 00:51:54.969
representative the commissioner have been
very clear on this if you take the text

00:51:55.054 --> 00:52:01.945
that's in the communication and you compare
it to 2021 it is the same language on

00:52:02.030 --> 00:52:08.921
the EU's commitment ex actly the same
language on the EU yeah the EU policy where

00:52:09.006 --> 00:52:16.152
there is a difference is indeed on the fact
that we have not been able to reach that

00:52:16.237 --> 00:52:23.213
multilateral legal obligation and that 's
why there is different language and that

00:52:23.298 --> 00:52:30.104
does reflect also the energy security
angle which is important wh y you see that

00:52:30.189 --> 00:52:35.718
language but in terms of the EU's
commitment it is crystal clear.

00:52:35.803 --> 00:52:37.003
Thank you.

00:52:38.514 --> 00:52:42.276
Thank you to both speakers. There are
no further comments from your side.

00:52:42.328 --> 00:52:46.657
Is there anything to raise under any other
business that is not the case then let me

00:52:46.708 --> 00:52:50.986
announce the date of our next meeting that
will be on the 3rd of November 2026 from

00:52:51.037 --> 00:52:53.666
9 to half past 12 and from
3 to 5 in the afternoon.

00:52:53.717 --> 00:52:57.892
This meeting will take place in Brussels.
The meeting is closed and let's now all

00:52:57.943 --> 00:52:59.143
rush to the plenary.

00:53:01.074 --> 00:53:02.274
Thank you.
