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Good morning, everyone. Good
morning, dear colleagues.

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Welcome to this brief meeting of our
Foreign Affairs Committee, where we have

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roughly 45 up to 60 minutes' time, so we
can all participate in the votes at 1 2.

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If you have no comments, then we
can then enter into the agend a.

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Item number 1 is the
adoption of the agenda.

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There are no objections from your side, as
I can see, so we can propose to adopt the

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agenda as it stands. The main point of
today's agenda is the presentation of the

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Joint Communication on the Europe -Snova
neighborhood, a new strategy for the

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Arctic. It is my pleasure to
welcome two our committee:

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Madame Claude Viron-Reville, the Special
Envoy for Ar ctic Affairs and Head of

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Division for Western Europe, at the
European External Action Service.

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I would also like to welcome Mr. Mark Gray,
Head of Unit for Political Strategy and

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Communication, at the
Commission's D G INTPA.

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The Arctic—and we've discussed this a number
of times in our committee—is no longer

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a remote per ipheral region. Climate change,
growing geopolitical competition, and

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the Russian military presence in the High
North have made it a strategic priority

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for the European Union. Up to now, the
European Union's approach, dated from the

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Communication of October 2021, and it is
certainly an understatement to say that the

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world has changed considerably since then.

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Earlier this week, the College adopted a
new strategy for the Arctic, which responds

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to that change and is
presented here now today.

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It looks set to place greater emphasis
on security, defense, connectivity, and

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economic security, while binding on our
long-standing commitments to climate action

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scientific cooperation
and indigenous peoples.

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What I would like to say to our two guest
speakers is that this committee, as shown

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at close interest in Arctic matters
throughout the last few year s.

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In November 2025, we adopted our report
on the EU's diplomatic strategy and

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geopolitical cooperation in the Arctic,
where we call for a robust value-based and

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security-oriented strategy.

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Also, I would like to welcome that, as a
follow-up, we commissioned a study entitled

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"Focus on the High North: Upgrading the
EU's Arctic Policy and Protecting the EU's

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Interests in a Rapidly Evolving Region. "
And finally, just a few weeks ago, we sent

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a small delegation to Iceland, where the
E U's Arctic Policy was, of course, also

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core of the discussions in Reykjavík. So,
with all that in mind, we now look forward

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to hearing from you from
the EAS and the Commission:

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how the Joint Communic ation
translates into ambitious action.

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Because the European Union is world
champion in printing papers, we have many

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strategies—it's time for a strategy to
coordinate all our strategies—but we are more

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interested in what does
that mean in practice.

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I will give you now, first, you the floor
for 7 minutes, and then afterwards you,

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Mr. Gray. Then we have time for an exchange
of views, and I will close the meeting

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at quarter to 12 so we can all
vote. The floor is yours, Madam.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Chair,
and very good to be here.

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Honorable Member of the AFET Committee, and
friends of the Arctic, so I'm very happy

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to be invited to present this strategy.
Just days after its adoption, and this

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strategy was the strategy the EU is stepping
up its Arctic engagement, so as you can

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infer from the title of the strategy,
partnership s are key to the successful

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implementation of our ambition. The
northern neighborhood is the cooperation

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framework with our partners. Northern
neighborhood, we conceive it as an inclusive

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framework of interests, values, and
geography, and the term "neighborhood" is here

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to underline the proximity of the European
Union to the wider Ar ctic, and our

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ambition to make the cooperation between
the EU and its Arctic partners more oper

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ational, but also more strategic. So our
message is that we want to work together

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with like-minded partners in our northern
neighborhood, security in our response to

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climate crisis and, above all, we want to
do that tog ether with the people of the

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Arctic and especially indigenous
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So I want to emphasize again that
the neighborhood is not a policy ;

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it is a framework for cooperation. We
had a very successful Arctic sum mit in

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Rovaniemi, in September, where the high
representative and vice president of the

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Commission, Kaja Kallas, particip ated,
and the Rovaniemi summit, the first of its

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kind, sent a powerful message of our new
level of ambition, and it could serve as a

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model for regular high-level joint summits
with our member states and partners to

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discuss shared challenges
and how to address them.

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Now, the structure of the strategy that
you have seen shows that our approach

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remains balanced. It is people-centered,
it is climate-aware, it is security-minded,

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and it is gro unded in
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We have therefore organized the
strategy along four chapters:

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the first one is strengthening security
and resilience, the second one is about

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protecting the environment and addressing
climate change, the third one is about

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supporting the

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Arctic economy and economic security,
and the fourth one contributing to the

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prosperity of the people
liv ing in the Arctic.

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Now, regarding security, the basis of our
updated strategy is not surprising for

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you. You have showed, as the Chair, Mr.
McAllister, underlined, that you have a

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strong interest in the file, you did so
with the own initiative report that was

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issued last year, and also with the Arctic
study that came out last month, and that

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we have re ad carefully. You have along
those reports consistently highlighted the

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need for the EU to address the
ch ange geopolitical landscape.

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Rightly so. And our updated Arctic
strategy reflects also this new reality by

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putting security firmly at its core.
Because the Arctic regions are no longer

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insulated against shifting geopolitical
dynamics, Russ ia's war of aggression

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against Ukraine, Russia's complete
disregard for the rules-based order invi

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olability of borders and territorial
integrity, have made cooperation with Russia

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impossible. Russia is building up its
military capacity in the Arctic, reviving the

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Cola Peninsula as a strategic bastion, and
expanding the capacities of the port of

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Murmansk. In parallel, we are seeing a
steady normalization of more confrontational

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behavior in the region, hybrid threats,
in the Baltic, and increasingly too in the

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Arctic, and a serious concern with
recurring incidents affecting critical

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infrastructure and regional stability.
Russia maritime doctrine is linking the North

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Atlantic, the Arctic,
and the Baltic theaters.

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And we need to adjust to this reality and
regard the Arctic and Baltic regions as a

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continuous interconnected strategic space.

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And finally, we need to leave no doubt
that sovereignty is not negotiable.

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But also to have a safe and secure Arctic,
we need the resilient and prepared and

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populated Ar ctic, and at the heart of this
lies improved infrastructure that would

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boost East-West connection s,
from the Baltic to the Arctic.

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We need infrastructure that is suited
to the Arctic and to both civil

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ian and defensive purposes. This requires
speeding up the implementation of 20

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projects, such as Rail Nordica
project and completing Ra il Baltica.

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We need also to upgrade our vigilance
capacity to safeguard our infrastructure

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against the har sh climate
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This is why we will work to enhance our
situational and maritime domain awareness

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through satellite data, in-situ and remote
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sharing. To do this, we aim to
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We want to work with member states to
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the region through an Ar ctic cable hub.
Looking ahead, we hope that this initiative

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can be expanded to a comprehensive maritime
security hub, with member states in the

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lead. We also want to
increase our icebreaker fleet;

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the EU can count
approximately 10 ic ebreakers.

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Whereas Russia has nearly 50 of them. The
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need for icebreakers with member states
through the new EU industri al maritime

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value chain alliance, and we will
explore opportunities to pull funding and

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technical resources within the neighborhood,
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that means that we are ready to
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Then again, regarding space, Earth observation
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Copernicus and Galileo
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To improve our ability to monitor land
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changes, oil spill, and
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To add to Copernicus capacities, a new
Earth observation governmental service will

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support decision-making in security and
defense, and to complement Galileo-free

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navigation services, the EU will initiate
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use with Galileo public regulated service.

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These initiatives highlight that Arctic
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Arctic security is European security. As
the High Representative Vice President said

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in Strasbourg on Tuesday,
Europe has interest to defend.

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It has partners to work with
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Europe will not be a
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It is a collective effort, which requires
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I will stop there, and give an opportunity
to my colleague from I NTPAM, Mark Gray,

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to complement on the other point. Thank you
very much, and I look forward to hearing

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your comments and questions.

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Thank you very much for
your introductory statement.

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Before I give the floor to Mr. Gray, I'm
pleased to welcome a group of national

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parliamentarians from Iceland,
Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland to our

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Strasbourg for the 66th meeting of
the EAA Joint Parliamentary Committee.

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Welcome, dear colleagues,
to the European Parliament.

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Mr. Gray.

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Thank you so much, Chair. Honorable members,
thank you for the invitation and I can

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also also like to express my welcome to
members from national parliaments and we've

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met quite a number of them
very recently in Reykjavík.

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I want to begin by paying tribute to this
parliament and the recommendations and the

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study that has been very much a foundation
also for the drafting of this joint

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communication. It's been an
extensive consultation process.

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We've tried to listen as much as we can,
and I think many of the key elements that

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have been set out by this House are
captured in the joint communication.

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I want to make three points, and I'm going
to try not to repeat what has just been

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said. First, very briefly,
why are we doing this?

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Two, that shift of political framing that
I think is important but if I can also

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respond to the Chair.
Strategies are nice, but what.

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Are you actually going to do about it? So
I will try and spend most of the time on

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that. In terms of why are we doing this, I
think the special envoy court has set out

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very nicely the changing situation. I
think the reality is that this is not an up

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date of a strategy. This is a new
strategy, to adapt to a new reality.

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And that reality is changing faster
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We now see that the Arctic
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We see that it risks to
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We have seen claims made on the Arctic
and parts of it, and I think with the

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European Union's exper ience, whether that
be in Ukraine or in terms of our response

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to Greenland we uphold the principles of
territorial integrity and sovereignty.

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That brings me to my
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We are addressing this through a new lens.

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And it's a partnership lens, and
again, with a number of colle agues.

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At the back of this room, that we've
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with the United States, Greenland, Faroe
Islands, this is about building a strategy

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that ver y much brings together
like-minded partners to address the iss

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ues of concern. For us, the framing
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precisely conveys the
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The closeness, the connectiveness
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What we are trying to do is to show what
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but also what the Arctic
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And that we stand and
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I think that's obviously true for the
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Arctic, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, but
this is a strategy for the whole of the

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European Union. But now I want to turn to,
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about this? How are we going
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And I think what you have seen in this
strategy is a complete mobilization of the

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whole Commission . This is not just a
strategy of DG INTPA and the EES, and I should

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pay tribute in particular to DG MA RI, who
have played a fundamental role over many

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years. This is a strategy that, if
you go through it, has got real meat;

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there is a whole set of deliverables here,
across a whole set of areas, whether that

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be as has been mentioned on digital,
on space, on transport, on critical raw

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materials, on research, on innovation,
on tourism, et cetera, et cetera.

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There is a lot of, there are a whole set
of proposals here, that look at the Arctic

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from that dual-use perspective, so not
simply from a military or simply from a

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civilian. We are trying to build
capabilities that c ross those two different

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issues, whether that be in terms of
space, again, whether that be in terms of

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transport. Of course, we're very aware that
there is a special fragility around the

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Arctic. And that is why when we look at
issues like critical raw materials, we

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absolutely underline the environ mental,
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It's when we look at renewable energy we
are very clear and strong on our commitment

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on at least what the European Union can
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and coal in the Arctic. When we look
at the economy, we look at it from the

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perspective of what can we do concretely

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? That benefits the people of the Arctic.
And again, I come back to the point about

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how much we've placed emphasis on working
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indigenous peoples, local communities, to
build a number of very actionable po ints

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that will directly benefit them. Whether
that be, as I say, fisheries, blue economy,

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small and medium enterprises,
tourism, et cetera.

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So there is a whole final section of the
communication that addresses the people

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dimens ion. But I want to conclude with,
in a sense, a question of what happens nex

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t. The first thing to say is that yes, this
is a strategy, so it's not a legislative

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proposal, it doesn't have a detailed
timeline, a detailed action plan, a costings

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for each initiative. But this
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Already next week, the. Commissioner
Sickola has been asked to follow up on the

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implementation of the strategy. Already
next week, DG INTPA will convene a meeting

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of all DGs, to bring together all the
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now go one by one, strand by strand, of
how we take each one of these actionable

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points and take them forward. So it's, from
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a strategy and we come back in a few
mon ths' time to consider what we did.

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We start already next week, concretely
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Thank you for your attention.

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Right, thank you to both our guest speakers
and now we have time for an exchange of

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views. As always, I first give the floor
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and Łukasz Kuhut is speaking for VEPP.

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Thank you very much. Dear Chair, nothing
unites people like a common enemy, our

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enemy comes from the east. It is a threat
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eastern Europe, and the north . As the
strategy rightly says, the Arctic, the North

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Atlantic, and the Baltic Sea are becoming
one interconnected strategic space.

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What happens in one affects
the security of all Europe.

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Hybrid attacks are hitting us everywhere.
GPS jamming, cable sabotage, drones over

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our infrastructure, and the
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The high north is part of the same front.
We cannot protect Europe while leaving the

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high north exposed. The Arctic is a
second gateway to Europe and must be fully

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protected. As the Standing Rapporteur for
Norway and on behalf of Mika Aaltola, the

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Rapporteur for the Arctic, we believe
that the strategy is moving in the right

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direction by providing concrete
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Firstly, the maritime security hub will
enable us to share information from various

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national and EU sources, from the Seabed
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vessels must be a priority. Europe has
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Copernicus, and navigation
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Secondly, the Arctic Cable Hub is another
initiative that could monitor and protect

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submarine cables in the North
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Critical infrastructure
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Nowadays, thirdly, we must expand European
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including through the new EU industrial
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European Polar Vessels must
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Vigilance and preparedness are essential.
The EU must operate in various dimensions,

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such as defense, including milit
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We already know how to do this in the
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Now these tools need real funding
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I believe that, like-minded partners in
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Iceland, will thread the strategy as an op

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portunity to develop
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Thank you very much.

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Thank you, Łukasz, for the
S&D, Andreas Schieder, please.

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Yeah, good morning, and
thanks for the presentation.

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And I have the honor to speak also on
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Piet ron, who regrets not to be here. But
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accompanied today with colleagues from the
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also let's say part of the Arctic. And
as previously has been pointed out, 2021

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strategy is no longer reflecting
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We see that it's becoming increasingly
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and theref ore we need this update. And
the high representative rightly said

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already, Arctic security is European
security, and it's also about this rule-based

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order, and we have to say that the Arctic
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the Cold W ar, was a rule-based
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And this compromise now is shaken.
We have Russia, we have China.

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There, we have to protect our critical
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already mentioned, and also the . Still in
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key pillars, as you also
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And especially important is to strengthen
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also always saying we resp ect the
Greenland's right to decide its own future in

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close cooperation with
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And we also should continue to deepen
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Canada, as they are part ners which
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I have to say, not like others. And
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The Arctic warmly nearly is warming
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average, and already the
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So four times more is even a big
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And there is the question
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Where we have to look also that extraction
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environmental and social standards, but
also respecting the rights of the indigenous

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people. And this is my last point. I think
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an area where people are living, and
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ing people living there is also the
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Arctic. Thank you so much.

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Thank you, Andreas who would like to
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Nobody for the ECR? Then for Renew
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Stark-Simmermann.

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Thank you very much, David. I do
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I do not want to repeat what
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But the Arctic is not just a land of
adventure, a wonderful one, but also a major

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issue in the security field. And I am very
pleased that Europe is finally addressing

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this issue, this topic. It is not without
reason that we will also be working

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closely with Canada on this issue in future,
especially when we note that the border

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between Canada and Denmark is more than
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working closely with Canada on this issue
in the future when we note that the border

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between Canada and Denmark is a maritime
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We are already connected in that regard.
And in view of this world that is

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increasingly coming apart at the seams, it
is of great importance to look at what we

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can do, what we must do. In terms of
security policy—and to put it in a

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nutshell—thank you very
much for this paper.

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We should continue working on this, but
it is not just about talking about it, but

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also about being clear
about what we can do.

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The report does say a lot. The topic
of Greenland has just been taken up.

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What we experienced last year, by the
way, Europe stood in a truly very solid

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position, alongside Denmark
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This shows that when we stand
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Simply looking is not enough. We need
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enforce it robustly, verbally robustly.
So as not to open up another front there.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, colleague. Next speaker
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Thank you, Chair. And thank you for
the Commission for the representing the

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strategy. Obviously, there are a lot of
improvements from the last strategy, but

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there are also some
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So I will focus mainly on those. We think
that the improvements on geopolitical

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understanding and the importance of that
situation, I think there are a lot of

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improvements in that. I think it's important
that we prepare for the Russian hybrid

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threats. We act against
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We could do even more on that. But I will
focus now more as a former environment

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minister for environment of Finland, on the
environmental and climate responsibility

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that the EU has in the Arctic.
Arctic is a very sensitive area.

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I mean, if species have to move northwards,
they have nowhere left to go if global

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warming continues. They are very
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Under sea areas, for example,
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So it's one of the least protected
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And EU and my own country when I was a
minister, we worked a lot to inc rease the

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protected areas in the region and also
work for the moratorium on the fossil fuel

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extrac tion. I see that in these issues,
in this strategy, there is a bit of

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backtracking from 2021.
That's at least my feeling.

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So if you can alleviate my worries and also
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the geopolitical challenges and the
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Partly we have geopolitical threats in the
Arctic if we don't create better rules on

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stopping over-exploitation. So the better
rules we have on areas of no-go where you

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can't economically exploit the resources
in the most sensitive northern areas, if we

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can have a moratorium there, it will also
ease the pressures of different countries

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fighting for those resources,
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I have to say also that often historically,
if there has been protected areas,

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Russia has respected them. So if we do make
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it's a progress where we can also reduce

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the risk of geopolitical tension. And the
same applies to IMO as well and maritime

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traffic. We have to make sure that there
is a higher standard of what kind of

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criteria the vessels that move into the
Arctic waters fill , because the risk of oil

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spill is very high and there's the European
waters and European coasts that are

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also. Affected by that. So I would like
you to answer a bit more about my worries

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that there is still focus on environmental
regulations and standards globally and

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you are not forgetting that and that
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Thank you.

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Thank you. Who would like to
take the floor for the left?

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Please, madam. Two minutes.

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Thank you. Mr. Chair, the new Arctic strategy
is an important step forward, but let

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me be clear. Strategy is only
as strong as its implementation.

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From Nordic perspective, the
Arctic is not Europe's periphery.

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It is an integral part of our
security competitiveness and future.

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I would like to highlight
three priorities.

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First, security must be
backed by concrete action.

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Russia's war against Ukraine has
fundamentally changed Europe's security

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environment. We must strengthen our
preparedness, protect official infra and improve

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our ability to respond
to emerging threats.

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This requires closer cooperation between
the EU-NATO and the Nordic partners, as

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well as concrete investments in Arctic
infra and security and especially in

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transport area. We cannot afford the threat
Arctic security as a secondary issue.

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Second, we must turn Europe-Arctic ambitions
also into smart investments innovations

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and jobs. We have world-class expertise
in many areas in Arctic rese arch, digital

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solutions, expertise in strategic
assets for the entire European Union.

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In the north part of Europe, the EU must
ensure that ambitious translate into

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concrete projects stronger industrial
capacity and long-term economic opportunities

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for Arctic regions. I'm not saying again
what my dear colleague Ville Niinistö said

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about climate and environmental issues. I
don't misuse your time, but I'm totally on

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the same line with him. And I think he
will support me as a former transport

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minister with the transport
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Area. I think words are not enough. We need
also funding, investments and measurable

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results. And third, security and economic
development must go hand in hand with

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environmental responsibility and
respect for local communities.

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So some people and other ingenious communities
must be respected and local people m

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ust have a meaningful role in this
system's affecting their future.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. And finally, for the ESN group,
would somebody like to take the floor?

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That is not the case. When I now get the
floor to our effort standing rapporteur for

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the Arctic, Urmas Pike, please.

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Thank you very much. Thank you, dear
colleagues from the Commission and external

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action service and of
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I have been following and dealing with
Arctic issues in the European Parliament for

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the last 10 years already, so that I have
seen lots of changes in the attitude,

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which is, I would say, unfortunately under
g iven circumstances of course positive,

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that we pay much more attention
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If I recall, which was the attitude and
comments around 10 years ago, why at all we

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should deal with Ar ctic and if we look
today that the main center is in security

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issues, then y es, we have noticed huge
and then big changes in this regard.

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I'm of course very happy that finally
there is also new European Union's Arctic

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strategy. Of course I fully agree that
the implementation is the most important

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element here. And I just want to mention
a few points where I think that comparing

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also with the European Parliament's last
year's recom mendation were actually 510

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members of this House
supported this recommendation.

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This is actually rather big majority.
Which also expresses large and united

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understanding about Arctic developments
in the European Parliament.

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Well, a few things which
I still want to mention.

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Of course I understand why maybe some of
them are not in this new European Union's

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Ar ctic strategy, but still I guess
we should keep them in our minds.

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European Union's future,
I mean enlargement.

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Yes, we got message from Iceland from
August, but still I guess European Union

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itself should have its do ors open and
be very welcoming and positive about this

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kind of develop ments because it's always
better to have for instance two security

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nets than one. Today we have NATO, but well
looking at the developments in the world

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I would say that EU in this regard is
very important new contributor to European

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security. Second element
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I of course share the concerns of my
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is of course the issue where we
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Because at the same time we also speak
that energy security of Europe is very

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important, but the most secure ener gy
we can have is energy which comes from

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Europe. And in this regard of course
Norway is very important contributor to the

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European energy security. And unfortunately
whatever EU says be it moratorium, be it

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whatever, well I have my doubts that
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So that we should avoid also the situation
that with our regulations and with our

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attitude we only in final end man age to
influence the most secure and environmental

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friendly energy production
in North. I mean Norway.

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And the others who don't have such a
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So that in this sense I guess the
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Thirdly, I'm glad that also I would say
finally European Commission and external

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action service are taking Arctic
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And in this regard I guess that also the
adequate structures and empowerment of this

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field is important. Fourthly, China. We
speak a lot about Russia and when we speak

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about security in Arctic, but of course we
should much more also keep eye on Chinese

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activities in this regard. And to stop
here I also would like to see that in this

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House before the end of this mandate we
once aga in come back to Arctic issues also

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in our plenary hall. Thank you.

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00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:32,688
Thank you, Urmas. As a Vice Chair of our
Committee, you know that you can sometimes

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be generous with speaking time.

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00:37:36,294 --> 00:37:39,805
Yes, thank you, but I felt that
there is not such a strong pressure.

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But sorry, sorry.

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So thank you, Urmas.
Also for your good work.

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00:37:45,761 --> 00:37:48,048
Now, who else would
like to take the floor?

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First, Hannah Jalul. Please
raise your hand, Ville.

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00:37:52,554 --> 00:37:57,435
Thank you very much. I can see from all
our interventions that the main worry we

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have all of us I think here is the issue
of en vironmental topic that I think all of

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us are worried with this new strategies,
local communiti es, what is the guarantee

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that we respect the local communities.
And something is important for us that has

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00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:17,814
been mentioned before, a part of everything
related to the environment is crit ical

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raw materials. How is this addressed here?

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00:38:20,499 --> 00:38:23,183
What is the clear
strategy on raw materials?

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00:38:23,244 --> 00:38:28,125
I think about communities, environment,
everything, but how is our policy on raw

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00:38:28,186 --> 00:38:33,007
materials has been mentioned also. When
we talk about international actors, you

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know, I know that the main worry also
for us here is China, Russ ia, how these

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00:38:37,888 --> 00:38:42,891
actors are involved there, how the European
Union can have our own leverage on the

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00:38:42,952 --> 00:38:47,894
issue. Which it is very important. And
something I was reading the other day that

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maritime ro utes now that are coming from
other parts of the world because of the

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00:38:52,958 --> 00:38:57,901
defrosting and things like this that what
will be very interesting to hear from y

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00:38:57,962 --> 00:39:02,477
ou. Thank you very much and indeed
because this meeting is very important.

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00:39:02,538 --> 00:39:07,663
This is going to be a very important topic
for the European Union in the next years.

441
00:39:07,724 --> 00:39:08,924
Thank you.

442
00:39:10,314 --> 00:39:11,694
Thank you, Ville, please.

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00:39:12,714 --> 00:39:19,293
Since I'm a Danish MEP, I'm very much
interested in the Greenlandic part of it.

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I visited Greenland a month ago. It was
the same month where the agreement between

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the US and Greenland and Denmark
was ratified in New York.

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00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:37,949
So it was very much a sense of relief.
And I think everyone who visited Greenland

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00:39:38,032 --> 00:39:44,945
has a feeling how much threatened the
population of Greenland felt in this case not

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00:39:45,028 --> 00:39:48,693
from Russia and China
but from the USA. And.

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00:39:48,776 --> 00:39:55,272
I think it's very important therefore
that the outcome of the agreement was an

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agreement that NATO sho uld play a much
more central role in the defense of the

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northern of Greenland
which I think is good.

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00:40:05,766 --> 00:40:11,513
It's a good exchange for bilateral
agreement between Denmark and U S.

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That it's now a multilateral
agreement. That's there.

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In the what's security is concerned. Another
thing worrying about the geopolitical a

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00:40:23,172 --> 00:40:30,085
lot more difficult situation is that
Greenland is only connected with two cables to

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the rest of the world. If these ones are
cut the communication possibilities for big

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parts of Greenland is changed. I wonder
if you have some use about what actions

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could be taken there. And then I think
you are approached to this that it's we

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people living there as a central
part is a very very important one.

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00:40:56,153 --> 00:41:02,899
Because I think that's been also in the
struggle with the US, the Danish approach

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00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:08,562
that nothing there should be made
without the people liv ing there.

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00:41:08,646 --> 00:41:12,227
And I think this approach
is important one.

463
00:41:12,310 --> 00:41:16,974
I think see the hammer is
raised so thank you very much.

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00:41:18,534 --> 00:41:21,678
Thank you. Who else would
like to take the floor?

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Then before I hand over to our guest
speakers for their closing statements of each

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five minut es, let me just also add that
I very much welcome that the strategy has

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been updated and that it is a joint
ownership of the European Commission and the

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European External Action Service. So we I
think have a really good strategy in place

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but of course action speaks not words. And
one of the first litmus tests will be how

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much of this will be seen the MFF for the
next period because of course all will

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cost a lot of money. Since we're running
out of time I will not go into any details

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many were addressed by the colleagues. I
will close this meeting at 22 so we have

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five minutes each. Who
would like to begin?

474
00:42:07,165 --> 00:42:08,365
Madame.

475
00:42:12,954 --> 00:42:18,050
Thank you very much, Mr.
Chair. And thank you very much.

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00:42:18,141 --> 00:42:25,693
Honorable members I'm very happy to see
from the comments that we see eye to eye on

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the situation of the Arctic and the
fact that today's strategic and security

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landscape call for revisiting
seriously our approach to the Arctic.

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00:42:38,979 --> 00:42:44,074
As Mr. Urma Pat underlined,
we're not new to the Arctic.

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We started our first policy on the Arctic
in 2008 and we're already at the fifth

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00:42:51,536 --> 00:42:58,816
iteration. But gradually we increase our
involvement on Arctic affairs and we've

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00:42:58,907 --> 00:43:06,277
increased also the importance we give to
security without walking back on the key

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00:43:06,368 --> 00:43:12,010
elements that are environment,
climate change, and the people.

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00:43:12,101 --> 00:43:19,654
Someone mentioned the importance of standards
and notably IMO, I want to high light

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that the Arctic is neither a place empty
of people nor a place with no rules.

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00:43:26,842 --> 00:43:34,304
There are rules supplying to the Arctic.
And definitely IMO is one of the key rule

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00:43:34,395 --> 00:43:41,311
setter for the Arctic and the shipping.
And we will continue to be extremely

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00:43:41,402 --> 00:43:49,045
involved in those framework bec ause the
pollution that can come from shipping is an

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00:43:49,136 --> 00:43:53,140
area that we can that
we must keep in focus.

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00:43:53,231 --> 00:44:00,875
A third point of partnerships. Partnerships
as you've seen are central to the way we

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see our policy for the Arctic. And partnership
will take a very concrete step soon

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00:44:08,518 --> 00:44:15,707
as we prepare for the summit with Canada
at the end of the month and the Arctic

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00:44:15,798 --> 00:44:23,169
issues will be discussed with Canada.
There is also a potential to strengthen our

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00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:30,812
cooperation with the UK which is not an
Arctic state but a key state in the EU gap,

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00:44:30,903 --> 00:44:38,456
the Greenland Iceland UK gap. And as we
prepare for the EU UK summit on the 20th of

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00:44:38,547 --> 00:44:46,009
November and the security and defense
partnership with the UK importantly includes

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00:44:46,099 --> 00:44:53,743
the mention of Arctic issues. And my
counterparts in the UK have already reached out

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00:44:53,834 --> 00:45:00,477
to me to discuss how we can see and
how we can collaborate on this issue.

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00:45:00,568 --> 00:45:07,756
Norway and Iceland of course we have
security and defense partnership with this

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countries. And we have already an Arctic
dialogue with Norway and we wish to

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00:45:14,854 --> 00:45:16,674
continue this dialog

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00:45:16,734 --> 00:45:23,742
ue and with Iceland there is a whole
paragraph on Arctic issues in our security and

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00:45:23,826 --> 00:45:30,580
defense partnership with Iceland and that
will be another opportunity to discuss

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00:45:30,665 --> 00:45:37,588
what we can do together. Regarding Greenland
I will leave to my colleague from the

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commission to speak about the co operation
frame but we as European have been

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00:45:44,258 --> 00:45:51,096
unambiguous in l ending our support to
the kingdom of Denmark to Greenland and to

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00:45:51,181 --> 00:45:58,273
Denmark. And we have all welcome the
trilateral agreement that is streng thening the

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00:45:58,357 --> 00:46:04,943
security in the Arctic and we will
continue to stay with behind the kingdom of

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00:46:05,027 --> 00:46:08,826
Denmark. The kingdom of
Denmark has our back.

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00:46:08,911 --> 00:46:16,003
And to conclude on the implementation we've
worked very closely with all services of

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the comm ission to produce this strategy
and we will continue to work for its

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00:46:22,673 --> 00:46:29,596
implementation. You are right that
implementation will be key and you are right to

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00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:36,181
mention that the MFF will be key. Some
actions can already be taken under the

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00:46:36,266 --> 00:46:43,189
current MFF. For example adding some
satellites to increase the observation of the

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00:46:43,273 --> 00:46:50,112
Arctic territor y. But some will need to
be backed by the future financing of the

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00:46:50,196 --> 00:46:56,951
EU. Highlighting also that the foreign
affair council will now follow up on this

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00:46:57,035 --> 00:47:04,043
strategy and as the foreign affair council
follows up on this strategy I hope and I

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00:47:04,127 --> 00:47:10,628
look forward to stay in conta ct with
the AFET and the European Parliament to

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00:47:10,713 --> 00:47:14,934
prepare for those conclusion.
Thank you very much.

520
00:47:16,614 --> 00:47:19,033
Sure. We will certainly remain in contact.

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00:47:19,091 --> 00:47:21,625
This topic is always
high on our agenda. Mr.

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00:47:21,683 --> 00:47:22,883
Gray please.

523
00:47:23,994 --> 00:47:30,916
Thank you and I would like to thank the
Honorable Members for their extremely

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00:47:31,006 --> 00:47:38,378
salient points on many ke y issues. I'm
going to start with the chair's firstly in

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terms of the MFF I think we would love to
be able to put a bill in the text and say

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00:47:46,019 --> 00:47:53,301
this is where it will all come from. I
think we would argue that its simply under

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00:47:53,391 --> 00:47:58,515
lines the wisdom of the
commission's proposal on the MFF.

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00:47:58,605 --> 00:48:06,067
In the sense of you can see actions here
that will require funding from heading one

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00:48:06,157 --> 00:48:13,528
from heading two from heading three it
will require a mobilization of member state

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00:48:13,618 --> 00:48:21,170
funding and of course we have already the
very clear commitment of the commission on

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00:48:21,260 --> 00:48:25,575
Greenland to double the
funding in the next MFF.

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00:48:25,665 --> 00:48:32,587
So I think from our side there is a very
clear will and I think we hope ver y

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00:48:32,677 --> 00:48:39,779
strongly that that logic in terms of an
issue like the Ar ctic is underlined as

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00:48:39,869 --> 00:48:47,150
final decisions are taken on the budget.
My second point I want to bring together

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00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:54,612
Greenland and people bec ause I very much
agree with the assessment that basically

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00:48:54,702 --> 00:49:02,164
anything we try to do in this strategy we
need to do it together with the people of

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00:49:02,253 --> 00:49:09,715
the Arctic. Because only they really
understand I think the challenges that we face

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00:49:09,805 --> 00:49:17,357
on a whole series of particular issues and
that's why it's so important that we work

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00:49:17,446 --> 00:49:24,728
so closely together. That's why there's
a lot of emphasis in the communication in

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the final chapter on
dialog ue and engagement.

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00:49:29,043 --> 00:49:34,078
A very particular focus on
engagement with young people.

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00:49:34,168 --> 00:49:41,719
I think both the high representative but
also the commissioner have spent quite some

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00:49:41,809 --> 00:49:49,091
time in their engagements tal king to
young people across the Arctic to very much

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00:49:49,181 --> 00:49:53,136
try to listen and
understand their concerns.

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00:49:53,226 --> 00:49:59,969
I want to move next to the climate.
I'd like to already state that from our

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00:50:00,058 --> 00:50:06,801
perspective we do not see a backtracking.
I think it was very important the

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00:50:06,891 --> 00:50:14,173
statement that was made that you need to
look at the geopolitical and the climate

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00:50:14,263 --> 00:50:21,814
together. There is a complete a full chapter
in the communication on the climate and

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00:50:21,904 --> 00:50:26,309
that to be very open was
done very intentionally.

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00:50:26,399 --> 00:50:30,714
We wanted to send a very
clear message of the un

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00:50:30,834 --> 00:50:34,747
precedented scale of the
challenge we see and.

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00:50:34,832 --> 00:50:41,723
If you look at AMOC and the discussions
that are taking place on that and you see

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00:50:41,808 --> 00:50:48,869
ver y quickly the real climate emergency
we face the same deb ate on permafrost the

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00:50:48,954 --> 00:50:56,015
same debate on pollution and that is why
you will see through th roughout this text

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00:50:56,100 --> 00:51:03,161
a set of key deliverables on the climate
itself but then as you look at each one of

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00:51:03,246 --> 00:51:08,606
the sectors the climate dimension
is very much reflected there.

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00:51:08,691 --> 00:51:15,837
As has been mentioned by the special envoy
I think the IMO regulations point when we

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00:51:15,922 --> 00:51:22,642
look at pol lution when we look at
emissions of black carbon emissions from the

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00:51:22,727 --> 00:51:27,661
Arctic very clearly set out
also within the communication.

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00:51:27,746 --> 00:51:34,722
Of course it would be remiss of me not to
mention the question of hydrocarb ons in

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00:51:34,807 --> 00:51:41,953
the Arctic there's been a lot of press
coverage as there was I think always going to

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00:51:42,038 --> 00:51:47,993
be whatever the language was there
I think yeah the president the high

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00:51:48,078 --> 00:51:54,969
representative the commissioner have been
very clear on this if you take the text

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00:51:55,054 --> 00:52:01,945
that's in the communication and you compare
it to 2021 it is the same language on

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00:52:02,030 --> 00:52:08,921
the EU's commitment ex actly the same
language on the EU yeah the EU policy where

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00:52:09,006 --> 00:52:16,152
there is a difference is indeed on the fact
that we have not been able to reach that

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00:52:16,237 --> 00:52:23,213
multilateral legal obligation and that 's
why there is different language and that

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00:52:23,298 --> 00:52:30,104
does reflect also the energy security
angle which is important wh y you see that

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00:52:30,189 --> 00:52:35,718
language but in terms of the EU's
commitment it is crystal clear.

570
00:52:35,803 --> 00:52:37,003
Thank you.

571
00:52:38,514 --> 00:52:42,276
Thank you to both speakers. There are
no further comments from your side.

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00:52:42,328 --> 00:52:46,657
Is there anything to raise under any other
business that is not the case then let me

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announce the date of our next meeting that
will be on the 3rd of November 2026 from

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9 to half past 12 and from
3 to 5 in the afternoon.

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This meeting will take place in Brussels.
The meeting is closed and let's now all

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rush to the plenary.

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00:53:01,074 --> 00:53:02,274
Thank you.
